An age old question...

[valerossi]

Well every once in a while this question comes up but suprisingly not one about my scooter. Well the question is...I've just bought a Piaggio NRG power (DT) and I was wondering where all the restrictors are and how would I go about removing most, if not all, of them. And I know this question comes up alot on these forums because I have run a search on here and also google and found nothing just some about the odd MC3. So i'd appreciate any input you can put into this thread. And sorry for the long winded post.
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[bikerbanditz]

Take it to a garage hand over 3 ten pound notes and the job's done. A work colleague has a NRG. It cost him 30 pound to get it derestricted and a further 60 for a Lazer 'race' exhaust. I have clocked him on the way home from work doing 62mph. This is from the speedo on my DT, and the speedo of another guy on a 125cc Jetforce.

Take it to a garage, that way you won't have the chance of you messing it up. But whatever you do get it derestricted because it's a really bad moped when restricted.

Tom
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[valerossi]

thanks for your reply Tom, but would the garage help me de-restrict it because i'm only 16 years old and legally im only allowed to do 30 anyway.
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[hazza]

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[hazza]

[bikerbanditz]

I don't want to start an argument. My speedo said 62mph and so did my mates. I ride a dt125 and my mate rides a Jetforce 125 and we were clocking a NRG 50cc. So I am guessing both of are speedo's are screwed.

Tom
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[Graham88]

[valerossi]

Lol thanks Graham i might hav to give it a shot. Thanks again guys for your replies, any other replies are most welcome.
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[cestrian]

Not wishing to be sarcastic but... if you are intent on de-restricting the bike, you may as well cancel your insurance at the same time, heck why pay for invalid insurance?

Gordy

[hazza]

i dont think i know anybody who kept their restrictors in on their 50cc bikes, its actually more dangerous with 30 mph as your maximum speed, i wouldnt worry about insurance either i doubt they would dyno your bike if you had an off, just dont get going past police cars at 50 and you will be fine
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[cestrian]

"i wouldnt worry about insurance either i doubt they would dyno your bike if you had an off, just dont get going past police cars at 50 and you will be fine" - HAZZA

OK, so he is riding along and he sees a young child run out into the road (not the first time its ever happened eh) and he hits the brakes at 50mph, failing to stop in time and hitting the kid, hospitalising him/her in the process. The police begin to ask questions and some busybody tells them that the a moped was hurtling down the road at an unusually high speed before it hit the child.

Now, bearing in mind that the police generally are NOT that stupid, and it is their job to take measurements on the road, calculate distances travelled and probable speeds, ask questions and investigate if vehicles were roadworthy, what are the chances that they may investigate why a moped which should only be capable of 30mph, was hurtling down the road at an unusually high speed?

When the insurance company receive a claim for many many thousands of £'s in damages, and also a report from the police stating that the moped had been de-restricted and that the rider was not licensed for the vehicle, what are the chances of the insurance company dropping the young rider like a hot peice of shit and refusing to pay out?

Also what are the chances that the young rider will lose his license and be heavily fined?

Condoning this type of behaviour is one of the things that gives bikers a bad name. No wonder we get 'stop-checked' more than car drivers.

Of course, it'll never happen to him will it?

Gordy

[Resurrection]

So are you telling me you have never done something you shouldn't like speeding etc? Because i could point you to a thread where you got caught speeding.

How fast can your bike go? how fast do you go? What your saying has a point but is just pointless scare mongering bullshit to be honest.

In my experience and bear in mind i work for the police IF the kid has an accident they are more likely to blame it on him being a tit and not looking where he was going/what he was doing., than to setup a full scale investigation with measuring tapes and SOCO's. HAS happened before but its the exception not the rule

Res
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[hazza]

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[firefox]

on a different note, i had a fully tuned 70cc scooter, what i was getting followed on when i had my crash, i was defiantly over 30 mph and accerlated faster then a standard scooter could do, but they didnt even mention any of that and didnt ask if the ped was de-restricted or not , theres a washer in the variator pulley (remove that) remove the pipe on the exhaust there might be more then one so make sure its the correct one first, then get the hole welded over
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*officer* what caused the crash ? *firefox* you see that wall up there sir ?
*officer* yes what about it *firefox* i tooted my horn but it refused to move i had to teach it a lesson.

[cestrian]

My initial response to this has been deleted as it is not my place or business to make people look like idiots.

Typical! Playing the 'devil's advocate' here, and not wishing to offend.

I tried to point out to the poster that....

1. Tinkering with his bike may cause a problem in the future, (and lets face it, it wouldnt be the first time that someone got caught out would it?)

2. He WILL invalidate his insurance, regardless of wether he gets away with it. Thats the chance you take.

And...

3. He may/will NOT be licensed for the bike. Again he may get away with it but we all know what Murphy's Law states, "If it can go wrong, it will", as I very well know.

So my question is this, is it right that we encourage this person to perorm an act and therefore ride without a valid license and/or insurance, regardless of wether he may, or may not, get away with it?

Res, to answer your questions.....

My bike (for which I hold a valid license and have fully comprehensive insurance) is capable of over 120 mph. Generally I ride at around the speed limits on all public roads. I'm courteous and I don't give bikers a bad name.

And to state that what I say is just "pointless scare mongering bullshit", I was trying to make the lad think twice before he breaks the law. Heck it wont be too long before he gets on a 125cc bike.

And to quote you "IF the kid has an accident they are more likely to blame it on him being a tit and not looking where he was going/what he was doing" - I agree, but if he was to really hurt someone.......

"HAS happened before but its the exception not the rule". Don't forget Murphy's Law, if it can go wrong, it will.

Hazza, with respect, you're missing the point. If a kid on a scooter hits a very young pedestrian (hereinafter called the innocent party), it seems likely that the innocent party (who is not required to wear a helmet and is probably not wear anything more protective than a raincoat), will be visiting hospital, perhaps requiring more than a check-up.

Gordy

[bikerbanditz]

Down here in Kent I have heard about dyno vans. Mopeds are put on a dyno in the back of a van to get the top speed. I think they are introducing them elsewhere.

Tom
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[cestrian]

[Pete.]

[bikerbanditz]

[valerossi]

Ok having thinking through this thread many, many times over. I've decided to go against the majority, and keep retrictors in place, just to save the hassle. Only thing is i want to go on "carriageways" but they are 60mph (if i'm correct) and my scooter goes half the speed, so instead of removing restrictors and keeping up with the traffic. Should I move to the left of the lane once in a while to let cars passed or should i just stay in centre of lane and hold the traffic up (bear in mind I've never ridden on a 60mph lane before. Thanks everyone for your replies and thank you cestrian for changing my mind.
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[cestrian]

Respect.