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GearboxGeezer
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 24 Nov 2006    Post subject: Datatool alarms, well there a fuck load of good ant they! Reply with quote

My mate has just had is Brand New Husky 125 Supermoto stolen from right out his front door ( and in a difficult place to manouver the bike softly...

The Datatool alarm certainly didnt go off, as its pretty defening.

This was during the afternoon, about 3-5pm at Middlesex, Hillingdon. Yellow And Blue ( Think its the Husquvarna racing colours ) Blue seat. Black metal tax disc holdeR ( ones from halfords ) Reg is If you know anything about this LKO6 LTO.

If anyone knows anything about this, Please tell me as soon as possible ( pm or somthing )

And if your involved with stealing this bike, then do the smart thing and leave it near where you stole it, or abandon it without damage and tell the police where it is from a phone box or somthing. Because this boys from a rather violent family, and you will be rammed off the road if your riding it.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 24 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

He doesent goto Brunel Uni does he? was seeing a similar bike around over the last few weeks... not recently though...
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 24 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry to hear it was stolen!

Datatool are truely sh*t!!!

Arrow You have to be really close to arm/de-arm them,
Arrow if theres a police/ambualance station nearby the fobs dont work and you have to push the bike 100 yards down the road and try again or get the fob as close to the box as poss.
Arrow its easy to rip out the alarm and immobiliser
Arrow very expensive
Arrow if someone stealling it puts the bike into a refrigirator van then the alarm cant be heard
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 24 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

paulodd wrote:
sorry to hear it was stolen!

Datatool are truely sh*t!!!

Arrow You have to be really close to arm/de-arm them,
Arrow if theres a police/ambualance station nearby the fobs dont work and you have to push the bike 100 yards down the road and try again or get the fob as close to the box as poss.
Arrow its easy to rip out the alarm and immobiliser
Arrow very expensive
Arrow if someone stealling it puts the bike into a refrigirator van then the alarm cant be heard


1. Only if the battery in the fob is dead or dieing
2. So rare you wouldn't believe it.
3. As is any alarm but one I fit will be screaming its little tinny head off before you get your grubby little mitts anywhere near it.
4. As are all approved alarms
5. Same with all alarms using a legal decibel sounder.

Next uniformed person please. Confused


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PostPosted: 23:10 - 24 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:

1. Only if the battery in the fob is dead or dieing
2. So rare you wouldn't believe it.
3. As is any alarm but one I fit will be screaming its little tinny head off before you get your grubby little mitts anYwhere near it.
4. As are all approved alarms
5. Same with all alarms using a legal decibel sounder.

Next uniformed person please. Confused



completly disagree with you there on a couple of points....

1. Both Fobs were brand new and the batteries were fine - and it did the same on mates ones
2. Hapened every time i went into town (while i was living in Coventry) - and the advice i was given by Datatool customer servi es was to push the bike a 100 yards up the road Confused



As you pointed out and i was well aware, that although the alarm will go off, its still easy to rip out, and again with the van theres nothing that can be done.


I was just pointing out that for such an expensive alarm it doesnt seem worth it in the end. Cheap alarms off ebay seem much more worth it imo
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 25 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

soz hear bout the bike missing, can't imagine anyone here being connected, the amount of bike stolen post over last few months is alerting and more so the comments left in comfort, this forum is a bike chat forum, not a bike 'nick' forum so had to say that, as for the alarm, my brother had a cheap sh1t chinese alarm on his ts125, but local scum came took bike at 9am one morning, alarm was so effective, we forgot he had it on!

anyways, hope it get's found/returned good luck Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 17:20 - 25 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

paulodd wrote:
sickpup wrote:

1. Only if the battery in the fob is dead or dieing
2. So rare you wouldn't believe it.
3. As is any alarm but one I fit will be screaming its little tinny head off before you get your grubby little mitts anYwhere near it.
4. As are all approved alarms
5. Same with all alarms using a legal decibel sounder.

Next uniformed person please. Confused



completly disagree with you there on a couple of points....

1. Both Fobs were brand new and the batteries were fine - and it did the same on mates ones
2. Hapened every time i went into town (while i was living in Coventry) - and the advice i was given by Datatool customer servi es was to push the bike a 100 yards up the road Confused



1. you dont want one that works from miles away. my mates vw transporter has really sensitive alarm / locking remote, it will work upto 70 feet away and through walls. he has locked it, gon on to the site where he works, accidentally unarmed it by knocking it in his pocket and had all the tools lifted.

2. any approved alarm works on a limited frequency band. if one alarm is transmitter is disrupted by other sources that are on close frequencies, you'll find any other approved alarm will be as well. ive heard other people complain about other alarm makes in petrol stations, but my s4 works fine in petrol stations.
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 25 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a Datatool system 3 on my GPZ and it's excellent. Motion alarm beeps always go off if chavs touch my bike or if a friendly cager clonks it with his door. Full reaction if people continue to mess with it.

If I happen to be off site when I return and disarm the bike the beeps let me know if anything has happened - I can then inspect for damage or nails placed under the tyres.

And if the bike breaks down, pressing both buttons activates hazard warning lights - essential to warn others at night or in poor visibility.

I usually combine the alarm with a decent chain and U-lock when parking in known dodgy areas. Yes, it was expensive but I'm happy with it and would certainly have another one fitted to my next bike.
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 25 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, same here.

Strong winds set the thing off too.

A few warning beeps are loud enough to make people look and then the full reaction will make people run, or give you time to do something.
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 25 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seen the exact bike a few weeks ago parked up in Uxbridge town centre. Could even be the one, I suppose. I'll keep my eyes peeled.
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 25 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

paulodd wrote:
sorry to hear it was stolen!

Datatool are truely sh*t!!!

Arrow You have to be really close to arm/de-arm them,
Arrow if theres a police/ambualance station nearby the fobs dont work and you have to push the bike 100 yards down the road and try again or get the fob as close to the box as poss.


Why would you want to be far away from the bike to dissarm it? Mine works from about 50m away and the thing is 6years old, but it is always used as I am walking up to the bike as it re arms automatically in 30secs anyway..

Never had any problems with the Staffs Police HQ that my mate lives next door to, and that has a mother of a radio mast.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 25 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
He doesent goto Brunel Uni does he? was seeing a similar bike around over the last few weeks... not recently though...


He lives near there, dosnt go to there though.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 25 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harold_Shand wrote:
Seen the exact bike a few weeks ago parked up in Uxbridge town centre. Could even be the one, I suppose. I'll keep my eyes peeled.


Probably was.

Still know news of the bike, been searching in a van for the last few nights, but no luck.
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 25 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

paulodd wrote:
Arrow if theres a police/ambualance station nearby the fobs dont work and you have to push the bike 100 yards down the road and try again or get the fob as close to the box as poss.


Confused

I work for the Ambulance service...

I've never have a problem when I take the bike to work.
(I have an S4 Red fitted BTW)
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 25 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never heard of the police/ambulance interference before either Confused Confused
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 25 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be more inclined to say 'User Error' maybe it wasn't armed.
My old Datatool Veto Evo was £400 and i had to arm it myself, the immobiliser kicked in after 40 seconds but the alarm had to be activated.

As for pushing it 100 yards, my Mercedes was the same on occasion, try shoving 1 1/2 ton of Germany's finest 100 yards, thats with Mercs own alarm fitted.
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 26 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnny GSX-R wrote:
My old Datatool Veto Evo was £400 and i had to arm it myself, the immobiliser kicked in after 40 seconds but the alarm had to be activated.


Same with all models I believe. Mine is anyway.
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 26 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You shouldn't really just rely on alarm to stop someone stealing a bike. The best defence is usually something physical such as chaining to something that doesn't move.

How do you know that the alarm didn't go off, maybe you just didn't hear it? Or maybe it wasn't set in the first place. I don't think its fair to blame the alarm without knowing all of the facts
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 27 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
paulodd wrote:
sorry to hear it was stolen!

Datatool are truely sh*t!!!

Arrow You have to be really close to arm/de-arm them,
Arrow if theres a police/ambualance station nearby the fobs dont work and you have to push the bike 100 yards down the road and try again or get the fob as close to the box as poss.
Arrow its easy to rip out the alarm and immobiliser
Arrow very expensive
Arrow if someone stealling it puts the bike into a refrigirator van then the alarm cant be heard


1. Only if the battery in the fob is dead or dieing
2. So rare you wouldn't believe it.
3. As is any alarm but one I fit will be screaming its little tinny head off before you get your grubby little mitts anywhere near it.
4. As are all approved alarms
5. Same with all alarms using a legal decibel sounder.

Next uniformed person please. Confused


With mine I do have a problem disarming it at a petrol station nere here (Linford Wood BP to those who know MK). My Datatool system 3 will arm but half the time won't disarm unless I press the fob up against the tank and even then it's hit and miss. The local ambulances park up nearby quite often and there is a big sattelite comms dish (not to mention the mobile phone mast built into the petrol price sign) nearby. I need to set the pin code on the alarm just in case it won't work with the Fob in the future...

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PostPosted: 01:09 - 28 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having used paulodds fob his was a complete bastard to arm/disarm. Had to be literally within a foot of the box. Whereas my older veto evo I can arm/disarm from a good 20m away.

I've never had any problems with my datatool alarm. Other than it's not as sensative as it used to be since I rebuilt my bike. May be my positioning of it or something.

But it /has/ stopped my bike being stolen once (that I know of).

I would consider it a big plus point if a bike had a datatool alarm in future.

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PostPosted: 13:18 - 28 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im looking for a good alarm and i was told on the phone iff the datatool alarm failed (iff this was possible) they would pay for the bike and alarm, maybe you should give data tool a ring and see what they say, on the subject off alarms im looking to get a alarm but im on a low budget any ideas?
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 28 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey,

All my bikes have had a cheap alarm off ebay installed, there called cheetah.
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Cheetah-Motorcycle-Alarm-Immobiliser_W0QQitemZ320051079942QQihZ011QQcategoryZ25643QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

One night some kids tried to nick my bike from outside my house, the alarm went off and i chased them off. Plus it only cost me £30.

At the end of the day an alarms an alarm, as long as it makes a noise when ur bikes moved thats all that matters. If they want ur bike that badly even the worlds most expensive alarm will not stop them.

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PostPosted: 13:55 - 28 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had one of those, they're worth the money, doesn't save you any insurance but it might save your bike in the same way my datatool one saved mine.

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PostPosted: 14:00 - 28 Nov 2006    Post subject: Re: Datatool alarms, well there a fuck load of good ant they Reply with quote

GearboxGeezer wrote:
The Datatool alarm certainly didnt go off, as its pretty defening.


What was it chained to, and what sort of chain and padlock was on it that they could cut through so easily?

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PostPosted: 20:38 - 28 Nov 2006    Post subject: Re: Datatool alarms, well there a fuck load of good ant they Reply with quote

feef wrote:
What was it chained to, and what sort of chain and padlock was on it that they could cut through so easily?


The original poster (GearboxGeezer) didn't say, but my guess is that it wasn't chained to anything and the only security that was on the bike at the time was the Datatool alarm.
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