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tokarev
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 19 Dec 2006    Post subject: Libya to execute HIV medics Reply with quote

https://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/africa/12/19/libya.aids.ap/index.html

I think this is very sad if the execution goes ahead. What is wrong with the bloody Judge?!

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More evidence for that argument surfaced on December 6 -- too late to be submitted in court -- when Nature magazine published an analysis of HIV and hepatitis virus samples from the children.

Using changes in the genetic information of HIV over time as a "molecular clock," the analysts concluded that the virus was contracted before the six defendants arrived at the hospital -- perhaps even three years before.


And in response to this pretty much solid evidence the guy representing the 'victims' says,

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Idriss Lagha, the president of a group representing the victims, rejected the Nature article, telling a press conference in London on Monday that the nurses had infected the children with a "genetically engineered" virus. He accused them as doing so for research on behalf of foreign intelligence agencies.


I can't believe this, where is the evidence for his claim. There is none because he pulled it out of his arse.

Hopefully their appeal succeeds!
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 19 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's such a deluded idea that they would go and deliberately infect these children.
Sad thing is they have already been in jail for about 7 years.

Can you imagine the feeling of helplessness? Sad
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PostPosted: 00:32 - 21 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any country that still imposes the death penalty, regardless of the guilt or innocence of those convicted, is savage and uncivilised and should face sanctions from all other countries in the world that actually have some concept of the sanctity of human life. No-one on the planet has the right to say whether another person should live or die, regardless of what they have or have not done in the past.
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 21 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

so any country that kills some serial killer on the chair = savage and uncivilised
ok how about if that serial killer wiped out your family?? ( god forbid)
i can see this turning into a "should capital punishment be implemented" essay type topic

edit: before i start getting random balllls thrown my way, i merely said this as a response to the previous post by angryjonny
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 21 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

GodzGift wrote:
so any country that kills some serial killer on the chair = savage and uncivilised

Yes. A life is a life. Take a life and you are a killer yourself, regardless of whose life you took.

GodzGift wrote:
ok how about if that serial killer wiped out your family?? ( god forbid)

I would expect to see them removed from society (ie - locked up) but I wouldn't expect to see them killed. What would that achieve?

GodzGift wrote:
i can see this turning into a "should capital punishment be implemented" essay type topic

I suppose it's in danger of going that way. It's one of those issues on which lots of people have an opinion.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 21 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

im more of a kill the bugger type person, an eye for a eye, a nipple for a nipple ,or even 2 nipples Mr. Green

ok how about saddam? hes a good example? his gonna get it big time now, is that wrong? considering he did kill a few people along his time?
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 21 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason I oppose the death penalty is because I have heard of too many innocent people that have been killed, only for investigators to find evidence for innocence after the death. I call it 'legalized murder'.

I was reading the news the other day and was quite shocked to see how backwards that some US states still are. Have a look at the sort of methods they are still using:

https://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o114/tokarev_pics/USDeathPenalty.jpg

Source: https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6185007.stm
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 21 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

angryjonny wrote:
Any country that still imposes the death penalty, regardless of the guilt or innocence of those convicted, is savage and uncivilised and should face sanctions from all other countries in the world that actually have some concept of the sanctity of human life. No-one on the planet has the right to say whether another person should live or die, regardless of what they have or have not done in the past.


Go over to America and try and convince the red-necks Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 21 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the state kills someone who is later revealed to be innocent of the crime that they accuse them of, then it is murder.
And those that authorized the execution should be tried for murder like any other citizen should be.
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 21 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

tokarev wrote:
quite shocked to see how backwards that some US states still are


Lol, it ain't just in executions. Smile
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 22 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColdInsomnia wrote:
If the state kills someone who is later revealed to be innocent of the crime that they accuse them of, then it is murder.
And those that authorized the execution should be tried for murder like any other citizen should be.


Then no one would be willing to bring sentence on anyone and the entire legal justice system would collapse overnight.

Human error MUST be factored into any 'system' be that legal, medical or admin, and allowances made for it.
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 23 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok someone maybe innocent after being executed, but how many times does this happen? not very often i say.

In brazil they just shoot them in the head, no trial no jury, if they catch a thief red handed, hes fooked,

they should employ the same tactics in this country, youll see crime drop quite a bit then.
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 23 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

GodzGift wrote:
In brazil they just shoot them in the head, no trial no jury, if they catch a thief red handed, hes fooked,

they should employ the same tactics in this country, youll see crime drop quite a bit then.


Have you seen the crime figures in brazil?? Shocked
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 23 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah its quite high
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