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Richard Green
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Help needed with tyres please Reply with quote

I was just woundering if there are any tyres out there for sports bikes with a harder compound in the centre of the tyre and a softer compound on the outside edges that anyone could recommend .
I have currently got a setof BT014,s fitted and they stick to the road like glue and i fing them great during the dry weather , but and it is a big but , now with the road conditions becoming a little more hazardous and riding to the conditions , ie not leaning the bike , after 200 miles they are squaring off , noticed this when i was two up and the bike just didnt want to go over , that and the fact now ive noticed the square tyres the bike will have to stay under cover to hide the embbarrasing square tyres till the weather drys up Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michelin Pilot Power 2CT Tyres are the ones your looking for.

i've just got them fitted to my buell and they feel great. so far
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PostPosted: 00:48 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ring Bridgestone and ask them to make you some 010s, they did everything you want.

Pilot Powers are my next choice because the price has come down now and I felt very confident with them when I tried them out in the wet.

D207s are my 2nd favourite to 010s, they don't seem to wear much in the wet but still grip brilliantly, cheap too.
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive got a bt014 front and a bt020 rear, still look new after over a 1000 miles Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:02 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

1000 miles is nothing, if you're not hard on, hard off the throttle all the time you should be getting 6-8k from a set.
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PostPosted: 01:10 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conti road attacks are pretty great, just got some on my ninja Thumbs Up

M+P are selling them at the moment for £120 a pair, expecting 5000 miles out of em
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PostPosted: 04:29 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using a set of Pirelli Diablo's on my R6 at the moment, had no problems in this weather with them, have had quite some distance (getting towards 8,000 miles now) out of them as well and still got about 2mm left on them.
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: 8 Reply with quote

wow 8000 miles im not getting anywhere near that , im at around 1500 miles and down to around 4mm , i need to invest in some tractor tyres Confused
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Re: 8 Reply with quote

richard green wrote:
wow 8000 miles im not getting anywhere near that , im at around 1500 miles and down to around 4mm , i need to invest in some tractor tyres Confused


No...you need to be smoother on the throttle. Wink
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dual compound tyres I'm aware of:

Avon Azaro
Bridgestone BT020
Conti Road Attack

I've used the BT020/014 combo that trevoriv suggests and they're pretty good (8000 plus miles). I plan on trying the Contis next time just for comparison.
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've learnt that for my riding style, I just need to follow one simple rule:

Pirelli every time.
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davo wrote:
I'm using a set of Pirelli Diablo's on my R6 at the moment, had no problems in this weather with them, have had quite some distance (getting towards 8,000 miles now) out of them as well and still got about 2mm left on them.


Pirelli Diablos are great. I'm running them on the TRX and I've no complaints.
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got Pirelli Diablo Stradas, they're the sports touring option. They're on a 2003 ZX6 and I've had no problems what so ever.
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a set of Pirelli Diablos, and they stick better than all the sets of 010's I've ever had. Plus they are harder wearing for motorway miles and in the wet. They also grip well in the wet.

I've tried Diablo Corsas and Supercorsas, and unless you are doing trackdays, the plain Diablos are the best for the road.

If you just do trackdays then Supercorsas are what you want, so I don't really see a lot of point in the corsas...
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never realised Bridgestone BT020's were dual compound. I have both front and rear on my Bandit.
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.bike-pix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6455

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Q. I chose 020's for the harder middle and softer edge ... meaning good wear on long runs but if I wanted to be fast in corners ( not that I ever am) then the 020s would cope ok. Basically did I choose a good all round tyre?
A. I hate to tell you but the BT-020 is not a dual compound tyre. It is and always has been a single compound tyre. You've believed that you've had the added security of extra grip in the corners thanks to the softer shoulder compound allied to sensible mileage from the harder centre compound. But you haven't, which kind of proves one of the things I always tell people about tyres: All tyres have enough grip, even sports touring tyres. This is why, wherever possible, I try to convince people that, as long as they're approved for the bike in question, they should always fit the sports touring option. There are obvious exceptions to this, e.g. if you're planning a couple of track days. But for road riding, a sports touring tyre has ample grip.

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PostPosted: 20:10 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

He also says that its only ever rear tyres which are dual compound, and the BT014 isn't dual compound too.
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 20 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
He also says that its only ever rear tyres which are dual compound, and the BT014 isn't dual compound too.


I know the 014 isn't dual compound.

I thought the 020 was - serves me right for not checking properly.

bridgestone.co.uk wrote:
Riding comfort, high-speed stability and long mileage are basic "functions", and all are needed in touring type tyres. The brand-new BT-020 cleared every technical high level goal, most notably the unsurpassed wet performance.
But this time, Bridgestone wanted to improve the appearance of its touring tyres plus offer a safe and comfortable feeling for a better experience. BT-020 is Bridgestone's proposal. BT-020: The New Vision of Touring.


TECHNICAL INDEX

Compound

The BT54 based Silica compound offers exceptional wet performance and longer mileage.

Profile

Designed with CTDM technology, the larger crown radius and unique anti-shock profile secures improved high-speed stability.

Construction

Bridgestone patented Kevler Mono Spiral Belt for riding comfort.

Pattern

Two centre lines and high-angled grooves effectively remove water. Also in front, the skilful placements of directional and anti-directional grooves form lug blocks for traction (grip).
Rear tyres offer form and function. The main diagonal grooves remove water, optimise rigidity, and at the same time give an artistic look to the new Battlax. The thin grooves in the tread edge hook in corners and give feedback to drivers during cornering.


That just about covers it.
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PostPosted: 01:11 - 21 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the Azaro is dual-compound either. The Azaro ST had a 7mm deep tread on my bike which gave a significant increase in mileage. I wouldn't put one on the front of my bike though preferring to use an SP on the front and an ST on the rear.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 21 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

BT 020, harder in middle for touring, softer on edge for funnnn


I got one on my rear end looks sweet too!!

Place near here £116 fitted and they tightened my chain too
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 21 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
1000 miles is nothing, if you're not hard on, hard off the throttle all the time you should be getting 6-8k from a set.


i bought my bike last november, saturday im getting 3rd new rear and 2nd new front tyre i must be doing something wrong Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 21 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
1000 miles is nothing, if you're not hard on, hard off the throttle all the time you should be getting 6-8k from a set.


Seems a bit pointless to me to buy a sports bike and ride slowly.

Ah well each to their own I say.
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 21 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevoriv wrote:
ive got a bt014 front and a bt020 rear, still look new after over a 1000 miles Thumbs Up


I've done nearly 9,000 miles on the same setup and they're not even starting to square. I don't really push them tbh but still well recommended.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 22 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the advice and recommendations , i think i may give the 020's a run and see what they last like , hopefully better than the 014's .
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 22 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

richard green wrote:
Thanks for all the advice and recommendations , i think i may give the 020's a run and see what they last like , hopefully better than the 014's .


I would go for Conti Road attacks in winter. I've found they give better wet grip than 020's.
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