anyone else fed up with the constant global warming chat?

[Mister James]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/2053842/Scientists-sign-petition-denying-man-made-global-warming.html

[Makaveli_Rydah]

Just came across this.....

https://www.infowars.com/?p=2473
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[Skudd]

The Grand canyon was caused by Global warming with not a car, fridge, tv, 4x4 or lightbulb in sight. We are making the planet untidy and we are causing other species to suffer so I can see the cause for keep it tidy. But there should be an alternative that is better than what we have now before we tax what we do now.
There again with the Government giving lip service to anti smoking and drinking they have to have another tax in place to cover the lost revenue they project loosing so it might as well be the green tax.
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[Itchy]

have you seen the news today? ,

people who don't believe in global warming are paedophiles according to a Bishop , they are like Joseph Fritzel...

the only programme to give debate on the other side was the great climate change swindle,

which was then ridiculed for being funded by big oil , I hate environmentallists myself a motorbike rider uses a helluva lot less than some 'environmentalists' like this nutty woman who goes flying long haul 6 times a year but makes up for it by cycling to work who lives nearby, sorry dear but I can ride my bike for 40 years for your flights and sigh....
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Hi

I agree that there is not enough evidence to disprove man made global warming.

Nobody here is claiming that the Oregon Institute are totally impartial, just that they have a petition signed by enough people to undermine any scientific cencensus on global warming theory, yet in the UK it has been almost totally ignored by the press.

As to those US liberatian loons, are they are worse than the far left control freaks who are now hiding under the wings of global warming?

All the best

Keith
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I feel that there are enough problems with the Oregon Institute and the way the petition was conducted to discount it entirely. I'll stick with actual scientists without a point to prove.

Although I have real problems with the ban the bomb lefties that have attached themselves to the cause, the libertarians are far more dangerous in my eyes.

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[Mister James]

[Fortuna]

And the Antarctic ice shelf is actually growing again.
Discounting that the sun has an influence on our planets temperature is total bull IMO. Look up the Maunder Minimum and the last couple of years at what the maximum has coincided with.
Cycle 24 should have started by now but hasn't. If the sun remains quiet temperatures could well drop. Everyone will then call it "Climate change".
Oh they already do.

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Hi

Nice balanced view here.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1023545/People-dont-care-climate-change-bad-dungeon-father-Fritzl-claims-Bishop.html

[killa]

I think a positive thing about this is the growing concern about saving energy and all that, good stuff IMO

As for this, “the planets dying” bullshi* im not so sure. I mean, I look around me, it’s 2008 and people still believe in the fuc*ing bible, the events that happened in it, miracles and so forth.
The western world especially seem to be pointing the finger at the average Joe (the population en mass), save this, do that, keep this, re-use that. When all this time people not like you and me are flying around the globe eating fast food, driving monster trucks, racing power boats and using electricity like it’s generated by water….

So some water rises in places, some strong winds happen and then a few programs and reports are made about plastic bags and polystyrene to shi* you up a bit. It’s worked on the massive scale it seems….its a chain reaction, an issue that’s snowballing.
They’ve actually started using weather events to confirm global warming and I think because it’s actually visible its holds more weight to an argument like this than just saying old school shi* like, the planets temperature has risen by 2 degrees. Because no one cares.

When they show you those glaciers breaking off and falling into the sea what do you think? Now I’m no scientist but I’m sure this has been happening long before we even cared what was going on there we even had our dates wrong about when the ice formed in the antartic by about….oh 4000 years.
They believe that in a few thousand years (or in about 50 depending on what news you watch) London for example will be like Venice. Well, one things for sure, I don’t give a fu** so what’s the point here? Land, comes and goes, people, come and go. If you want to stay in London and swim to work in 2050 then so be it.
At one point Dinosaurs dominated the earth, now, they didn’t do much apart from eat, shi* and sleep but this mattered not because a huge rock from outer space put a stop to this pretty sharpish.….unavoidable to them because they had no way of knowing of, or stopping it. Surely this is the same on our part, I mean aliens might decide our planet sucks and fry us with a huge laser beam or something. Highly unlikely but I think it’s pretty unlikely that we can halt the planet changing how it wants to work. There’s no shortage of people keeping species alive replanting tree’s,, altering the natural selections, we’re saving more than we need….yeah Gorillas are cool to look at but I wouldn’t go near one, we don’t need them.
Anyways, I’m going off topic a bit. The bottom line is, the people that hold most of the power to save the planet aren’t doing a great deal, so why should you? I mean to me it feels like our leaders are currently capping brown people for more energy resources leading us all into something we didn’t really want…..they are shifting the blame to the little people, it’s us, you’re the ones using the plastic bags, you’re the ones only taking 5 people in your 1.3 Escort to work.
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Hi

The are far from the largest group. Plenty of groups do not agree with the current GW theories / scares. In the UK over the last decade it seems to have gone from pretty much total acceptance of the theory to wide spread scepticism.

All the best

Keith
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[Fortuna]

Killa you picked up on a really good point about tree planting.
Later this year I will be planting my six oaks that I have. I wonder how much that offsets my carbon footprint and if I will get a reduction when the government introduces carbon rationing.

[Kris]

I feel physically sick after hearing the new socially acceptable 'buzzwords' like sustainability, carbon offsetting, man-made climate change et al. Yuk, yuk, yuk.

It's yet another swindle, yet another worrying boogyman to get you running scared and to fall straight into the laps of those who set the rules. They demand we jump, we say "How high?"

They claimed for decades the planet was approaching an ice age. People worried, accepted that 'something must be done'. Next they claimed the planet was melting. People worried, accepted that 'something must be done'.

Well slap my ass and call me a sailor if that something isn't a new and improved super scheme (actually devised in the 40's - Club of Rome) where they will tax us to extinction, meanwhile fostering anti-human depopulation methods and scare stories. Bad weather recently? That'll be your carbon footprint you scumbag! Cat died? Not sustainable enough! Jeez, enough already!

Carbon dioxide, along with water, solar radiation and oxygen, are the building blocks of life. During the Hiberius Maxim (around 8000 years ago?) Co2 levels were around 14 times higher, which made the planet like a giant allotment with vegetation everywhere.

These enviro-MENTALists always spout on about CO2 as if it's a devil gas of which it is not. A large volcano like St Helens puts out more CO2 in one eruption than about 50 years worth of humans!

It's a ruse, a trick, a distraction from the real environmental issues that actually affect us. You know; the real issues like GM foodstuffs, chimera species, Hadon super-colliders, toxic chemicals in our drinking water, biological weapons use and 'outbreaks', viruses in vaccines....

All of this nonsense spouted about how the planet is dying when it is us that is getting cancer at record levels, us that is being injected, fed and watered absolute garbage full of the deadliest man-made pathogens.

So go plant a tree you fucking loons. See what good it'll do us.


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