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PostPosted: 11:48 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reving scooter engine Reply with quote

Hey

Just a quick question

Does reving a 50 c 2t scooter engine damage it? (from still)

and what does it do and how

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PostPosted: 11:49 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not good for it. Giving it a few blips wont do it any harm but sitting bouncing it off the limiter will.

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and what does it do and how


Whenever you rev the engine the wheel will spin.
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

general engine wear if the engine's warm yea, mostly it'll damage your ego as if you're doing it at traffic lights like most kids do on them, you'll look a reet tit.
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It fucks up the clutch.

People rev car and bike engines because it sounds cool and somtimes proves your penis is bigger than your competitors. But the only way this can be accomplished is by having a hand or foot opperated clutch.

Peds do not have these, they have automated devices that trigger the clutch in and out of action at certain revs.

So when you are sitting there reving your ped really high with the brakes on then you are fucking it up.

But you can give it little revs, just dont rev with the brake on.

P.s. Ped revving does not prove you have a bigger penis, unless racing exhaust and neons and comedy horn sounds are played.
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

well the clutch is engaging, and slipping.
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mad the main problem is you'll just look like a cock!
engine wear shouldn't really be the issue, as you're only 16 you're just keeping this until you can get a car or a real bike right?
unless you plan on keeping this moped forever then do what all moped chaps do. rag the nuts off it, sell it on for an extreme loss and let the next owner deal with it.
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you talking about revving it fom cold or blipping it at lights?
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
Are you talking about revving it fom cold or blipping it at lights?


Well its after the engines been warmed.

I wouldn't want to rev the engine but one of mates did last night when i had the engine warming up, i quickly chuked him off it


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PostPosted: 13:51 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it the sort of thing where you'll cause constant small damage or if done loads it will sharply screw it up.

He only reved it a little on a warm engine but still annoyed me

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PostPosted: 13:52 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

GearboxGeezer wrote:
It fucks up the clutch.

People rev car and bike engines because it sounds cool and somtimes proves your penis is bigger than your competitors. But the only way this can be accomplished is by having a hand or foot opperated clutch.

Peds do not have these, they have automated devices that trigger the clutch in and out of action at certain revs.

So when you are sitting there reving your ped really high with the brakes on then you are fucking it up.

But you can give it little revs, just dont rev with the brake on.

P.s. Ped revving does not prove you have a bigger penis, unless racing exhaust and neons and comedy horn sounds are played.


So on cars and bikes it does no damage at all? (clutch operated)
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you should only really use revs when the engine is under load... Redlining in first gear ain't too healthy for example.
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
Well you should only really use revs when the engine is under load... Redlining in first gear ain't too healthy for example.


Don't talk daft.

It doesn't do any harm to bounce an engine off of the limiter, as long as you have a manual clutch and the engine is warm.

As long as you don't hold it there for a period of hours you'll be ok.
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

iv bounced my cagiva 2stroke off the rev limiter a few times -- you just look a prat when you do it on the road Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Toby R wrote:
Well you should only really use revs when the engine is under load... Redlining in first gear ain't too healthy for example.


Don't talk daft.

It doesn't do any harm to bounce an engine off of the limiter, as long as you have a manual clutch and the engine is warm.

As long as you don't hold it there for a period of hours you'll be ok.


Are you refeing to when your in motion or when your stationary eg at the lights?

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PostPosted: 17:32 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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iv bounced my cagiva 2stroke off the rev limiter a few times -- you just look a prat when you do it on the road


Didn't think Cagiva used limiters... my Mito will happily rev straight off the clock and round to the stop if I hold it open long enough. The only "limit" I tend to hit is when it all gets out of sync with the exhaust-pressure-wave when the bike isn't warmed up...
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
Well you should only really use revs when the engine is under load... Redlining in first gear ain't too healthy for example.


What difference is it from hitting the limiter in a higher gear?

And why do you think manufacturers put rev limiters in then?
To stop people over revving them!

Jap bikes spend 24 hrs continuously on the rev limiter before they are passed for production.

Which means, it dont mattter if you hit the limiter. thats what its there for!

Rev limiters are quality for burnouts
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomhunter wrote:


Are you refeing to when your in motion or when your stationary eg at the lights?

Cheers


I'm talking either.

But for you it is irrelevant as scooters have automatic clutches, and as such you'll screw the clutch if you rev it when stationary.

And if you blip the throttle whilst riding to make it sound like a geared bike... then you're an eejit.
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PostPosted: 03:15 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed, 2 strokes shouldn't have limiters.

They don't have valves to bend/interface with. And they'll just run out of power when the revs get too high.

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PostPosted: 04:18 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peds don't have limiters, do they? Confused
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PostPosted: 10:22 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

NOt that i've ever heard, but most of the ones round me have the 30mph limiter on them.

I would expect them to just run out of puff and not be able to rev any faster.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

thas the restriction not a rev limiter

& its the CDI that stops it over revving which means they do have a limiter BUT to hit that limit, you've gotta be pushing out some serious tuned horses

anyway 2t's LOVE to be revved Wink
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

you know what i mean. OK limiter wasn't the best choice of words lol.
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alot of 2 stroke engines, really start to retard the ignition timing at speeds over peak power rpm. This acts like a rev limiter, becuase even if the exhaust system and gas flow within the engine would allow the engine to make decent power at increased rpm, the CDI pulls back the timing, and that often has the effect of almost halving the power output in a 500-1000rpm interval.
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