Triumph brakes - we all knew they were S**T

[Wooly R6]

"Triumph has advised its dealers to replace the braking systems on some Sprint ST and Speed Triple 1050 models.
An e-mail was sent to all Triumph dealers which acknowledges customer dissatisfaction and advises dealers to enhance the much-maligned braking system, and has been leaked to MCN.
The document reveals Triumph’s recommendation to fit: “a new master cylinder” for the Sprint ST and: “the installation of coated calliper pistons to the front brake callipers” on the Speed Triple"

Sprint ST 1050 email

Here is a full transcript of the e-mail concerning the Sprint ST 1050;
“SPRINT ST 1050 front brake – increased lever travel. Machines built prior to Vin: 253133.
A small number of Sprint ST 1050 customers of bikes built prior to Vin 253133 are reporting dissatisfaction with the front brake feel and for reasons of customer goodwill, we would like to confirm our wish to satisfy these owners.
The reported issue is that of control lever travel variation which has been a concern of some customers, to the extent that we have modified later Sprint ST 1050 models to accommodate our customers’ requirements.
For clarity we wish to confirm that the enhancement fitted on the latest models is available to customers who purchased 1050 Sprint ST’s prior to VIN 253133 as a goodwill gesture.
This involves the installation of a new master cylinder (T2025498) only. Please carry out this work for any customers’ who express any concerns to yo.
How to claim modification costs from us:
For convenience, please use the Warranty On Line system to process this goodwill work using:
Claim type “GOODWILL”
Fault code 02021091 and
Repair code 12021009
This new repair code covers the admin credit element. Please conduct a Full Download from this tomorrow onwards to capture these new codes.”

Speed Triple 1050 email

Here is a full transcript of the e-mail concerning the Speed Triple 1050:
“Speed Triple 1050 front brake – increased lever travel. Machines built prior to Vin: 253302.
A small number of Speed Triple customers of bikes built prior to Vin 253302 are reporting dissatisfaction with the Speed Triple 1050 radial front brake and for reasons of customer goodwill, we would like to confirm our wish to satisfy these owners.
The reported issue is that of control lever travel variation which has been a concern of some customers, to the extent that we have modified later Speed Triple models to accommodate our customers’ requirements.
For clarity we wish to confirm that the enhancement fitted on the latest models is available to customers who purchased 1050 Speed Triples prior to VIN 253302 as a goodwill gesture.
This involves the installation of coated calliper pistons to the front brake callipers only. Please carry out this work for any customers’ who express any concerns to yo.
How to claim modification costs from us:
For convenience, please use the Warranty On Line system to process this goodwill work using:
Claim type “GOODWILL”
Fault code 02020291 and
Repair code 12020205
This new repair code covers the time to modify 2 calliper assemblies and the admin credit element. Please conduct a Full Download from this tomorrow onwards to capture these new codes.”
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R6 has been sold - 2004 Honda VFR VTEC now sold too - no bike at the moment

[McJamweasel]

[gavin]

this is an old story. the issue is with the master cylinders, i believe it affects some suzukis and yamahas too.
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[chris-red]

[McJamweasel]

[MarJay]

Pure bigotry.

Its people like you who can damage the british bike industry beyond recognition.

Besides which, yamaha's are all shit.

Not really, I used to have a TZR250 which was great, but I'm trying to make a point.
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[Wooly R6]

the british bike industry is just triumph and ccm aint it!!! load of fookin good they are then!!!!

so what is there to damage, triumph are doing a grand job of that themselves, and to think that i liked the daytona 600/650
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R6 has been sold - 2004 Honda VFR VTEC now sold too - no bike at the moment

[Wooly R6]

tell you what - i hate triumph now
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R6 has been sold - 2004 Honda VFR VTEC now sold too - no bike at the moment

[MarJay]

I expected a slightly more adult response than that to be honest Wooly.

We're all entitled to our own opinion, but generally those opinions are balanced and come from experience.

I still find it interesting that the D675 beats the R6 in most of the road tests I've read...
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British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F; Cheap project: CBR900RR FireBlade
Remember kids, bikes aren't like lego. You can't easily take a part from one bike and then fit it to another.

[McJamweasel]

What us it with you and this anti-Triumph thing? I mean, really, where did it come from? Did a Rocket beat you down your favorite twistys or something? I really don't see what Triumph have done to give you this 675-shaped chip on your shoulder.

They make some bloody good bikes, they are designed and built in the UK and they offer an alternative to the usual GSBZR-thing.

Maybe its just the MCN bullshit, Triumph give an exclusive first ride to someone else so the toys end up out of the pram and suddenly its pick-on-Trumpet time.
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[Reppyboyo]

[Wooly R6]

[Kickstart]

That takes the biscuit coming from a Yamaha owner.

Plenty of 4 stroke Yamahas have burnt oil at a hell of a rate.

The brake problem is a supplier problem. Also affects other makers they supply brakes to, such as Suzuki.

Suppose it will teach Triumph for buying Japanese .

All the best

Keith
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[McJamweasel]

[Jebus]

i agree with all the guys that are happy with what triumph are doing, they are offering a free upgrade to anybody that wants it, on the bikes that are effected by a "feel" problem, its not really a issue that effects the safety level of the bike but it shows that triumph care about what thier customers think, yes they had other problems as well but they find them out and fix them, ok they take longer than the major japanese factories but there is a big difference in size and resources available. good on the trumpet boys for this!
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[twpd]

My Sprint RS has superb brakes - never short of power. There's more lever travel than I like but, that's all. I am used to the light-switch effect of my Ducati's brakes.
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