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PostPosted: 16:07 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: damn dog. Reply with quote

was out on the drive this morning, fixing the car, when i heard a commotion from across the street.

looked up and theres a little girl about 8 or 9 walking her little collie type dog with her middle aged mum, and the dog is being bothered by this stocky pitbull type dog, that must have got out from someones garden due to the wind blowing some fences down. the mum tries to pull her dog away but the pitbull is still having ago and is starting to snap at her. then it manages to get a jaw grip on the other dogs upper front leg and gets right stuck in, dragging it and shaking it about.

its obvious the mum cant do anything and its getting rapidly worse, so i run over and try to drag the dog off, but its moving to quick and growling and scratching out at us. i struggle with it for a bit before managing to get hold of it with both hands by its ears, and it lets go witrh a yelp when i lift it right off the floor by its ears, still flailing away with its claws, so i smack it into the ground, stick my right knee between its shoulderblades to pin it down with what weight i have and gather up the scruff of its neck into my right fist, so tight that its starting to choke, which stops it struggling.

i walked it off down the road to where i think it came from and chucked it into the owners front garden. i reckon it weighed about as much as my 7 y.o son, i was only able to chuck it about 6 feet. thankfully it stayed where it was and didnt turn on me.

back with the other dog, its wimpering and cant walk as its leg is all chewed up, and the mother and little girl are both quite shaken.

somehow i managed to get not even a scratch, its only sitting here afterwards i realise it could have been very nasty, but then you cant just stand back and watch.

the dad has just been round to express his thanks and im expecting a visit from the dog warden to take a statment.

why people keep these kind of dogs is beyond me. im sure they will say its soft and soppy and wont hurt anyone, but thats fine untill it does, they are born to kill, arent they?
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Re: damn dog. Reply with quote

gavin wrote:
they are born to kill, arent they?



Yes they are, and with the publicity at the moment following the death of a very young girl thanks to a ferocious pitt-bull type dog the police and people are very much aware of how dangerous they are. We've had a raid quite locally to remove (and destroy I believe) some fighting-type dogs. I suspect the same will happen to the dog you had to drag away too - it could easily have gone for the child over the dog. Thumbs Down

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PostPosted: 16:56 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hero Gavin..!

I was hoping that story wasn't going to end with you having some crap attempt to get it of but being scared to hurt it. Top man. Even better that you managed to stop from killing it, I think I would have picked up the closest metal bar and sunk it into its skull. Wouldn't have even tried to man handle it. Neutral

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PostPosted: 18:08 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

aww come on dont take the piss Confused i think i did what anyone would have done in the circumstances.
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not taking the piss. Neutral

I doubt a lot of people would have tried to man handle it.
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was refering to that there bella. maybe i should have set it on her penguins! Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

instigator wrote:
I'm not taking the piss. Neutral

I doubt a lot of people would have tried to man handle it.


I wouldn't have picked it up, I'd have got some sort of bar/bat and would try to get the dog to let go without actually wacking it.. but if it did turn on me id fuckin wop it one right between the eyes!

my grans got a yorkshire terrier and that thing goes nuts if it "turns" on you, would hate to see a dog 5 times the size and ferrociosuity (new word!) turn on someone/thing.. must be mad!
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You my man have some huge nuts... i dont know many people that have the stones to try and do that. It would of been a swift repeated boot in the ribs from me, but i supose if youd of killed it the owners would of sued you for damages or the like. hope the dog and its owners are okay. We need to get rid of these bastard dogs, they are no good to anything. Born and bred to kill.

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PostPosted: 18:36 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i didnt think about all that till after the event. i guess it was too busy being locked on to the other dog to think about turning to bite me, and by the time i'd scruffed its neck up it was already immobilised and too late, it was over in a matter of seconds.
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done you Gavin, shows you got balls. Being a dog lover and the owner of a collie I think I would have done similar in your situation, however, I would have been landing a size ten Cat boot right on the dogs ribs.

Hope the dog warden and the local council take the owners of the pitbull to the cleaners. Why would you let your dog out knowing the fence used to contain the animal was damaged and not capable of securing the dog.

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PostPosted: 19:05 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one Gavin
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

gavin wrote:
i was refering to that there bella. maybe i should have set it on her penguins! Laughing


I wasn't taking the mick. I hate aggressive dogs, they scare the willies out of me. I would have been back inside watching from the safety of an upstairs window on the phone to the police.
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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they are born to kill, arent they?
Not neccessarly (sp), there "moulded" into "killing" machines or another favourite for the media is "Devil Dogs" by there sick owners.

Nice job though. Smile Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meant to ask, how was the Collie?
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big nuts. Good Man.
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicely done fella. Thumbs Up

I've got a collie myself and they are the nicest creatures you'll ever come across. Mine's been on the receiving end of some aggro from a couple of alsations that live near me (fortunately the owner's been able to drag them off) and even in those situations he's never going to do any worse than growl at them, there's just no violence in him.

As instigator says, well done for chucking it back into the owners garden rather than killing it, as I'm not sure I could use such restraint if anything was attacking mine. (Not to mention the fact I'd rather kick the thing to bits than risk manhandling it.)

Hopefully the collie recovers from the ordeal alright, they can be very sensitive even about the smallest of things.
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Re: damn dog. Reply with quote

gavin wrote:
being bothered by this stocky pitbull type


Oh god... Here we go.....

When I'm out walking Chav I have people crossing the road pointing out the 'Baby-Killing Pitull' on the end of his (relatively) short lead yet he's not at all 'big or butch'
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He looks like a 6 month old puppy and behaves like one!


You all seem to want to appear as an intelligent people yet you are blinded by ignorance, jumping on the media-hyped bandwagon without knowing the full facts. Trying to educate people like yourselves if difficult enough with the 'big butch dog' mentality that Chav's are portraying without people who clearly don't have a clue labelling INNOCENT animals.

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Not neccessarly (sp), there "moulded" into "killing" machines or another favourite for the media is "Devil Dogs" by there sick owners.


I'm with Dan on this one...
Blame the owners not the dogs eh? They do what they are trained to do. Responsible owners should NOT be tarred with the same brush as people who have no control over their animals.

EDIT: Forgot to say.... Well done for being all big n brave - it's not a nice thing for a mum and her young daughter to be seeing, no matter WHAT BREED has attacked.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lozzypop, some dogs are naturally aggressive and others aren't. You're dead right that with good training they can usually be turned into very well behaved dogs but it does require a lot of work and my experience is that many of the people who are attracted to these kinds of dogs aren't going to bother putting the effort in. I'm not tarring all owners with the same brush but it seems to me that with dogs like pitbulls and alsations you're better off assuming the worst.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's wrong with Alsations...

I've got a Rottie and an Alsation...Soft as shite the both of them and Great with kids and Strangers to them...

The Alsation Ripped the sleeve of some twat that had broken into a house the back of us last year, the Idiot thought it'd be a good idea to escape over my back garden and ran across and subsequently fell through the roof of the dog run and landed on him so he did his duty and protected himself and the property...

Can't fault either one of them...Apart from the Rottie as all she wants to do is Lick you to death...

Edit, My Brother has an American Pitbull and again she's placid untill she needs to be otherwise...She lives with my Brother his Missus and their two kids and again the dog is No bother...

Just because the newspapers say something Everyone jumps on the Bandwagon and causes a fuss...
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dom wrote:
Lozzypop, some dogs are naturally aggressive and others aren't. You're dead right that with good training they can usually be turned into very well behaved dogs but it does require a lot of work and my experience is that many of the people who are attracted to these kinds of dogs aren't going to bother putting the effort in. I'm not tarring all owners with the same brush but it seems to me that with dogs like pitbulls and alsations you're better off assuming the worst.


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Does this not contradict yourself??

I think not... How can you say that without broadening it to each and every owner of each breed of dog? You can't to do so would be ridiculous.
A close friend of mine was splashed all over the paper for kicking a poodle around the local town - There was public outrage at him doing this due to the breed (however anyone who knows anything about dogs know that poodles are capable of being VERY vicious. Funny thing was... They omitted the part where he needed lots of stitches from the dog attacking him in the first instance.

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but it seems to me that with dogs like pitbulls and alsations you're better off assuming the worst.


You should assume the worst with any breed. Anything less is sheer stupidity.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

well in this case, loz, you couldnt be more wrong. the person i think it belongs to is known for breeding and selling fighting dogs and has been banned from keeping dogs in the past. they are treated poorly and not trained in order to make them more aggressive and sellable.

the only reason there are dogs there now is he has been away on an enforced holiday for some time....
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

But how was the collie? Smile
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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well in this case, loz, you couldnt be more wrong. the person i think it belongs to is known for breeding and selling fighting dogs and has been banned from keeping dogs in the past. they are treated poorly and not trained in order to make them more aggressive and sellable.

the only reason there are dogs there now is he has been away on an enforced holiday for some time....


Explain how I couldn't be more wrong please? Seems to me you just added weight to my argument
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

are well forgetting the owner pitbull that killed the little girl was drug dealer and that been reported for attacked other dogs in the past and nothing was done (so im guessing it was train to attack).... also my nan had a old english sheep dog (dulux dog) and that was crazy it bit my grandad my dad and my aunt 30mins after my aunt coming back from hospital the dog bit my mum lol... was ok with me and my sister though (we where about 5 at the time) my aunt also had a old english sheep dog call wooster was so soft it was untrue was an amazing dog... its all down to the training and inbreeding i think
sorry for the o/t story there but that is a example of how one dog can be the best dog in the world and another dog of the same bread can the DEVIL !!!!!

and well done gavin i wouldnt know what to do if i was in that position Thumbs Up .... i was attack by scottys once and i shit one running about the bastards double teamed me !!!! (there was 2 of them)

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PostPosted: 20:32 - 21 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edicap wrote:
But how was the collie? Smile



its with the vet. the dad said its leg is in pretty bad shape. they only got it a year ago for some company for the kids as he is disabled and cant do much. poor thing came from an RSPCA rescue centre too.

she was on the lead and minding her own business when the thing just ran over and attacked her for no reason.

oh, and i forgot to mention, as i was looking at the collies leg i heard another row back down the road and turned round to see it attacking an alsatian (again on the lead) that was about 3 times its size. i chased it off again - though this time all i had to do was yell at it- and it ran inside the house and the door was shut behind it.

damn thing needs putting down. Evil or Very Mad


loz, the dog is a bad dog, its been bred to be a bad dog. that may be the owners fault, but its still a bad dog. i dont believe you can turn back the clock and make it a wholly good dog.
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