Chain wax, useless stuff

[stinkwheel]

This is a picture of the chain I put on my KLE500 exactly 14 days ago, with new sprockets too.

After fitting it, I carefully lubed every link with castrol chain wax with the bike on a paddock stand.

I then rode 800 miles, reapplying the wax once at roughly the halfway point. I waxed it again on returning home then put the bike in the lockup.

The bike has now sat in my lockup for ten days.

I have just spend half an hour de-gunking and setting up my scotoiler again.

It was gold coloured when it was put on.

[NickD]

Always found that stuff too 'dry' to apply properly. A scottoiler's the only serious option for year round riding. I had 23k out of the chain on my speed triple, and it was still in good nick when I sold it.
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[the grim reaper]

Also, if you apply chain wax thick enough for it to do it'd job, it very nicely picks up loads of grit and turns into a grinding paste. As of next wednesday, I'm doing 110 miles a day, as of last saturday, I have a scott-oiler.

Cheers

Grim
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[Mr.Everready]

I hate the stuff. what more can I say ?
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[Bishbash]

How much are scotoilers? I want to get one. Any good places that are not too pricey?

Got a £69.99 from M and P...Anywhere better!

[stinkwheel]

£70 is about right. I bought mine second hand.

You can also gewt a thing called a loobman which is about £17. They work on 'squeezy bottle technology'. You squeeze the bottle before you move away and it drips oil on the chain. Much more low-tech but works fine.

Can cause problems on European bikes because a certain amount of oil will continue to drip once you stop. Ok on Jap bikes because it just drips onto the ground, european bikes have the chain on the other side so it tends to drip onto the wheel when parked on the sidestand.

[Bishbash]

[EuropeanNC30R...]

I don't touch chain wax, the Castrol stuff especially, as mentioned it soon becomes a grinding paste that needs cleaning.

[Rob]

Wax is ok if you are going to store your bike for a while! I ride all year round with just oiling the chain every now and again and its fine. I think chain oiling is very over-rated!

My mate had a real problem with a scotoiler spewing oil all over his back wheel.. not a good situation! I know a lot of people get on with them but I prefer to know where my lube goes!!!
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[JonB]

Using chain wax was probably the worth thing I have ever done to my bike. I forever repent my sins for causing the bottom left hand side of my bike for looking so ghastly with that stuff on it.
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[Bishbash]

I know what you mean Jon, it turns it all god damn green. Looks like your dog just spewed over it!

[stinkwheel]

Nothing too fiddly, just cable ties and such.

Working out where you are going to position them and routing the delivery tubes takes a bit of planning though.

You need to connect a scotoiler to one of the vacuum tubes on the carbs (the vacuum opens the valve when the engine is running and allows the oil to run out). Most bikes this is just a case of pulling a small rubber boot off and replacing it with a different one. On some you need to screw in a new fitting or splice into the vacuum tube for the fuel tap. All the fittings are supplied though.

Make sure you put it somewhere you can get at it. I know so many people who put them under the saddle then have to unload all their luggage in order to fill it.

My preference is to simply attach it to a tube on the subframe with cable ties and a couple of bits of rubber hose rather than fannying about with brackets.

I did someone a picture a while back of how i attached my one:
https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=31428

[Bishbash]

Cool, easy as 1,2,4...

Cheers dude!

[Nb]

I used to use wax...it just created a grinding paste which didnt look too good. So i bought and fitted a touring scottoiler which so far seems to be doing the job just fine.
Fitted it behind my number plate
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/blazebrown/DSCI0008.jpg
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/blazebrown/DSCI0006.jpg
Great invention
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[Jack_Cheese]

Putoline ceramic wax is good, but like others have said it becomes a grinding paste, which means i have to clean the chain and re-lube it very frequently, normally every 1-200 miles. It's ok as long as you remove the paste, but chainsaw oil or a scottoiler would probably be better.

Jack
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[MattEMulsion]

I didn't get on with Castrol Chain Wax either, I didn't think it did a very good job and if I remember correctly it made you chain look a manky greeny/yellow colour.

I did find a local shop though that sold it cheap so I invested in a couple of new tins of the stuff. They are now sitting on my shelf somewhat redundant! Does anybody want to buy it off me dead cheap??? Funnily enough the shop that was selling it cheaper than anywhere else soon went out of business...
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[Klause]

Bike stuff is such a gimik. Just use this or something similar from your local suppler...
https://www.lawson-his.co.uk/scripts/details.php?cat=Chainsaw%20Oil&product=30230

Anit fling oil for ubber cheap what more could you ask for!?!?
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[Wooly R6]

i like using the Wurth High Performance Dry Chain Lube - had a few cans now - very little fling - can't really tell its on the chain, cause the chain still looks good.

i bought castrol chain wax first when i bought my bike - its crap - it sticks to the chain ok - and thats the problem, every-bloody-thing sticks to the chain wax then.

i bought a can of putoline chain lube last time - and it has flung bloody everywhere!!!!

stick to wurths high performance dry chain lube - its bloody great stuff
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[MarkJ]

As Jack said, Putoline chain wax is good .

While we have the Scottoiler bods in the same thread I have a question: Do you fill the Scottoiler will the same Scottoil I coat my bike with after a ride, or do they also make a specific product for the Scottoiler chain lube system?

[NickD]

[Zimbo]

No you don't fill it with F365, they supply a bottle of oil specifically for the scotoiler. The bottle with the kit lasts ages - should do at least 5000 miles - and are about a fiver a bottle to replace. I used to use chainsaw oil in mine but now I just buy the proper stuff, it's just a fiver every couple of years.

[craigs23]

[flat eric]

i was the same as WOOLY R6, used putoline at first but it flung everywhere. then spoke to a ZX10-R owner outside a bike shop in denbigh (north wales), and he used castrol chain wax. but like wooly r6, it made the chain manky and like someone had spilt candle wax all over the chain.

i'm now on 'WURTH high perfomance chain lube', it seems a lot better. i don't do much mileage, but i keep an eye on the chain after every ride and clean/re-lube as needed.

i'm thinking of getting a scott oiler, what are the pro's and con's of having one. ie does it drip loads when the bike is standing, by that i mean will the lube drop if at all when it is stood still. (need to know if i need to place something under the bike to stop the oil from dripping onto my bike mat) the missus bought it me and would kill me if it got dirty.
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