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goonernumber1
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 28 Jan 2007    Post subject: Fed up with my RS125..... Reply with quote

Basically because it's too unreliable. I bought it when I was a little younger and 'the great look' was which drew me to it. Unfortunately it's not the most reliable bike so was looking for something a little more reliable.

I've possibly narrowed it down to the honda CBR125, and Honda XR 125.

These two because of the reliabiltiy of the Honda basically, although obviously I'm sacrificing speed and great look.

Does anybody have any experience with these two bikes or do you have any other suggestions?

Cheers....
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 28 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

XR125 - great for stoppies and cheaper to insure than the CBR125. It crashes well too because there's no plastics. Tops out at 70 on the speedo, whilst he CBR has about 2-3 more bhp to see it to 72-75mph. It's all good stuff and the XR is air cooled- it runs well on neglect.
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G
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 28 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I've seen on here, the CBR isn't massively reliable.

How much do you have to spend?
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 28 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just out of interest have you considered using some of the money to take your bike test?

You get a lot of bike for your money if you look carefully enough (especially for the price that CBR125's go for)
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 28 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davo wrote:
Just out of interest have you considered using some of the money to take your bike test?


Yup apart from cheap commuters that go for ever, there's not much to be said for 125s.
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PostPosted: 00:07 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
From what I've seen on here, the CBR isn't massively reliable.


Lies, lies and slander G. They are just misunderstood Razz
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does anybody have any experience with these two bikes or do you have any other suggestions?


I am the proud owner of an NS125R, there is also NSR125R, 2 different bikes, NS seems to have more power etc,(not that i'm biased Wink ) these aren't too expensive if you shop around.. also yamaha TZR 125, another great one. Thumbs Up
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G
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

A derestricted NSR should have more power than an NS.

I have owned a NR125R, NSR125F(93) and NSR125R(2003) as well as the CRM125(91?, based on NSR engine) I have at the moment.
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colin1
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PostPosted: 01:38 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont know how much you know, but the rs125 is a 2 stroke 125 so has twice the power of the 4 stroke 125s you mention.

I think this may feel a bit crap, so instead go for a less tuned 2 stroke 125 like a dt125, either that or sort your rs125 out.

I think a dt125 would have been a good bike for me to start on as no fairings so doesnt matter if its dropped, but still the power of a 2 stroke
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Squiffy_The_Wombat
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PostPosted: 01:41 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
A derestricted NSR should have more power than an NS.

I have owned a NR125R, NSR125F(93) and NSR125R(2003) as well as the CRM125(91?, based on NSR engine) I have at the moment.


HMMMMM are you sure? The NS125RK produced more power at the crank than the NSR and the NSR had all the CDI restrictors etc? Either way if he wants a reliable bike, none of the NSR series are going to be any better than an RS/RGV/TZR - theyre all 2S!
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PostPosted: 07:58 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My NS has done 82MPH, for a stock 125(well, okay it has a micron exhaust)that's pretty good, show me an NSR and we'll see which crosses the line first.. Cool (not boasting, being serious)
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PostPosted: 08:49 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Derestricted NSR125R hit just over an indicated 100 with me riding it. NSR125F (naked, so worse air resistance) hit around 90 riding 'normally' (just tucked in) while my NS125R I /just/ managed 88, but this was with me lying flat along the bike with legs sticking out behind.
I've had an indicated 80 or so on the CRM with stock gearing as well and it's not quite running right - not too bad for a trail style bike.

Squiffy:
When derestricted (some NSs were restricted as well) the NSR makes more power - think about 22-24hp has been seen on the dyno. Believe the NS is around 18hp.
The UK NSR was not CDI restricted, though some european models were.
I would say that the NSR is a bit more 'reliable' than the RS125 - in that they seem to keep working for a fair bit longer when not properly maintained.
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 30 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:


Squiffy:
When derestricted (some NSs were restricted as well) the NSR makes more power - think about 22-24hp has been seen on the dyno. Believe the NS is around 18hp.
The UK NSR was not CDI restricted, though some european models were.
I would say that the NSR is a bit more 'reliable' than the RS125 - in that they seem to keep working for a fair bit longer when not properly maintained.


This is quite intresting, i wonder if my NS125RK had mods done to it that i didnt realise. It would easily do a ton and got there bloody quick. I know it had a dodgy head, carbon reeds and micron etc. I do have the dyno printout somewhere and im sure it was over 24bhp, ill have to dig it out!

To be fair, my bike was off the road MUCH more than it was ever on the road! Maybe its that the NS was easier to eak that last bit of power from?

I totally agree about the NSR being more reliable than the RS. I know several kids who have had no end of problems with theirs! I think it might have something to do with the whole italian/japanese compairision!

Personally if i was on a 125 again it would have to be a bannana armed RGV Very Happy
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 30 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to stay with 125s, Colin's got the right idea about a DT125.

But myself, I'd do up the RS if economical, sell it, use £500 of the money to pass my test, and buy a 400/500/600.
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 30 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:
My NS has done 82MPH, for a stock 125(well, okay it has a micron exhaust)that's pretty good, show me an NSR and we'll see which crosses the line first.. Cool (not boasting, being serious)


I had an NS125R that wouldn't go past 60, ever.

An NSR would beat it.
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st3v3
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 30 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose it depends on the riders attitude, at night, I won't go over 50, I'm not saying an NSR won't beat mine as it may well do and around 82 is what the speedo read, so not sure how accurate my speedo is. Confused
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