gilera runner 125 vx red racer Or Aprila rs125

[hughes051]

Hi. Ia m 37 Years Old and just passed my CBT, and I had a choice of bikes the gilera runner 125 vx red racer or the Aprila rs125 both brand new bikes.

I have decided on advise to purchase the gilera runner 125 vx red racer. Have I made the currect choice for my first bike ?
any advise will be helpful
thx
Ian
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Ian Hughes

[derbi x-treme]

depends what sort of riding you want to do i would of gone for the rs as it would have been faster and better handling. but the runner is a nice bike for a scooter and would be a better beginner bike if you have no experience.

[hughes051]

I am a new biker and been told that the rs 125 ( my fav bike when i was 17) would need looking after as it a 2 stroke and need to keep putting oil etc in with petrol I have no no experience what so ever and been told the vx is top of the range for the scooter and the same engin as the rs and will do around 70 to 75 miles an hour and does 0 to 60 in 6.5 seconds ?. All i be doing on the bike is running back from town every day which is about 1 mile away or going and a ride which is about 12 to 20 miles once a week
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Ian Hughes

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Right, if the runner was the same engine as the RS, it would need the same maintenance.

It is not the same engine.

I thought the runner was 2 stroke, but they may have changed to 4 stroke.

All the main stream road 2 strokes have auto lube - you fill up a seperate tank with oil and it mixes it for you. You even get a light to show when it's getting low, so there's little hassle there.

The RS wouldn't be ideal for doing regular one mile trips because the engine wouldn't get a chance to warm up quickly.

Are you looking new or second hand?

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[hughes051]

HI, I am buying new so I know the bike has not been raced. I would like the RS 125 but we are talking £3,800 when the vx 125 is only £2,499 my plan is to ride around get use to a bike and what it can do then pass my full test and skip the 125 all together and buy a bigger bike.

I have also been told I can borrow a bike ( geared ) from the shop to past my full test.

Also the oil will cost £11 per ltr plus the cost of the bike and they told me I would need to fill the rs once every 2 weeks also so. I have order the VX125 now as I been told by alot of rider they are a good bike so as soon I get it I post my thoughts

Thanks for your advise
Ian
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Ian Hughes

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Pretty damn unlikley to find a bike that has been raced for either of those - there are a few race rs125s, but these are pretty obvious.

Oops, just noticed youv'e bought the Gilera, was going to suggest (much to my disdain) the CBR125.

Odd that you're worried about the cost of oil on the RS, yet are willing to probably lose more per mile through depreciation from a new bike.

The gilera is supposed to be an 'ok' scooter, the 2 stroke version is known to be quite fast. However, performance levels aren't really going to be up to geared bikes - doesn't really matter for most people riding a mile into town - I'm sure you'll enjoy it anyway.

[h00dwink]

kind of silly reason to buy new to be honest. when it comes to selling it, you'll be lucky to get about £1300 for it.
aswell, it's a scooter not a bike, so that's a pretty different state of affairs.
still, whatever floats your boat. i think you'll love it, but it is a lot different to a proper bike.
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[hughes051]

I had some bikers recommend the runner over the rs 125 due to the kind of riding i be doing as I am a newbie to biking, also I want to buy new so I know were it been and i will know it has not been trashed or raced . I think I be happy with the vx 125 reading all the views and reports but I think you are right I will lose money later when i trade it in but I am not looking to buy a big bike like a cbr 600 but I have been told after you ride a 125 you will want a bigger bike I see how i get on. I have now left a deposit for my vx 125 but I might still have a option for the rs 125 I am at a cross raods so to speak i let you know what happens when i get it on the 1st of march
thanks for all you advise
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If you have the option of choosing, I would seriously look at the CBR125.

Personally I wouldn't recommended buying any such bike new, but the 4 stroke CBR125 offers a bit less hassle using the bike, but also offers some ‘real bike’ abilities.

[hughes051]

You keep saying don`t buy new why I don`t under stand

I am not to worried when i trade it in next two years and I know I will lose money but thats life you lose every time when you buy new but a least I have 2 or 3 years warrenty e.t.c. or am i missing somethink in any case i cound sell it oin ebay if needed? thx
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If you're happy with losing a significant amount of money for the sake of only having one or two people before you ride the bike, fair enough.

I do appreciate that some people do like to buy new and have enough spare money that it doesn't bother them. The comments about the CBR125 were suggesting a new one.

You will also have to run the engine in, this typically means running at no more than half revs for 500 miles, then slowly increasing the throttle used.
So, say you are doing 30 miles a week; you're talking about 4 months until you can start to increase the revs and probably 8 before you can fully use the bike you paid for.

Not so bad on a 1000cc bike that can do 90mph at half revs; I wouldn't want that on a 125cc. Not sure how it works on a scooter, because half revs could be very slow.

Warranty is generally worth less than the extra you pay in my opinion. Often have to fight to get stuff sorted.

[derbi x-treme]

most people just dont want to buy new because most small bikes loose half their value as soon as they're ridden out of the showroom, and you can buy some great condition 2nd hand ones for alot cheaper and even if it hsnt been treated too well it will still last you a pretty long time as 50s and 125s are made pretty tough because the companies that make theem know they are mostly ridden by learners and that you have to really rev them to get them anywhere. also about the oil issue i doubt you would need to fill it up that often on my 50cc geared bike ive had for 8 months used about 3 times a week ive only ever bought 3 bottles of oil lol

[hughes051]

ok first thanks for your comments they do mean alot to me.
I am under the impression the the gilera runner vx125 is top of the range for a scooter and the Aprila RS125 is the Top of the 125

But as I am looking for some fun the only bike I have ever ridden is a Yamaha TZR with a power vaual or that what i was told 20 years ago LOL. If i put these two bikes in a drag race were would they come out against the VX125

I am hoping that the VX 125 has good acceleration like the TZR but I know it will not be in the same league

Thanks again
I am lookng forward to my bike
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If it's power on the moped you want then you should be looking at the Gilera Runner Sp125 or the runner 180, the 2 stroke is faster then 4 stroke.
You will get bored of it very quick tho as it's only twist & go, if you're still wanting a 125 then the RS125 will be quite fun.
The Runner will do about 65mph on the flat & the Rs i've read does about 100mph, plus you have 6 gears & a clutch to play around with & learn from.

But before you going buying new i suggest you look around a bit, there's so much you can get for that sort of money & less.

[h00dwink]

ok, if you don't want something that's been thrashed around;
https://motors.listings.ebay.co.uk/_Motorcycles-Scooters_2005-and-later-125cc_W0QQa10238Z45461QQa38Z36049QQa39ZQ2d24QQa6ZQ2d24QQa85ZQ2d24QQalistZa39Q2ca6Q2ca85Q2ca38Q2ca10238Q2ca3801QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQcurcatZtrueQQfromZR10QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQga10244Z10425QQgcsZ14QQpfidZ1179QQpfmodeZ1QQsacatZ422QQsaprchiZQQsaprcloZQQsatitleZQQsocmdZListingItemListQQsofocusZpf

ANYTHING road legal there, with low mileage will do. can save you between £500 and £2500 over buying spanking new from a dealer if all you want is a little run around to get used to riding.

and there'll be very little depreciation as it's already happened
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