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PostPosted: 15:22 - 08 Feb 2007    Post subject: Which battery from where? Do I need one? Reply with quote

Okay I can take it no longer and I think the AA are getting peaved with jumpstarts and dad doesnt appreciate being called out of bed at 6am.. so I need a new battery I think:

problem, battery charges fine, seems to hold charge but won't start the bike, if it's left over night in the cold damn shed or even parked up outside at uni for a while..it goes on strike.
It also uses a fair bit of water (not a sealed one)

The battery is a standard kawasaki origional one.. so it's from 1998 (possibly)... if it is, which it looks like it could be it needs replacing.

Anyone agree or disagree with the above? The spark plugs have been changed, this was happening before the change and still is.

So if it is the battery... which one do I go for,
Wemoto have a pattern part, identical to what's in the bike now: £26.95 posted
tayna.co.uk have a Varta battery also not sealed for :
£29 posted.
I've also emailed Cradley kawasaki and Drayton Croft.

anyone got any other suggestions of where to get a battery from? Also any input on makes?

I'm tempted to get a new chain at the same time under the same P+P off wemoto as mine wont hold any lube...but it has been hard going (wet and windy) recently... again any thoughts?

Any input appreciated... thanks
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 08 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Halfords also sell motorcycle batteries. Choice of sealed or standard (depending on how much you want to spend).

If you're getting them mail order, make sure they include an acid pack to fill it with (they don't always and it is tricky to get hold of).

As a general rule, you get what you pay for. A budget make like 'sprint' will last maybe two years. A more expensive, sealed 'exide' battery will probably last five or six years. Varta probably falls somewhere between the two.
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 08 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acid packs? my battery is losing water, so I add distilled water, should I be adding acid too then? mayb it's saveable?

planning on selling some time after next week (restriction up) when I can find a suitably priced and condition next bike.
Halford website is useless, no battery for my bike there. Don't know of one within walking distance.

found the code for the battery 'YB14L-A2' and have serached some more and found a varta battery for £19 +postage making it £26 + £6.00 acid...

wonder if my dad has some sukphuric acid, he may well do.
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 08 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Halfords also sell motorcycle batteries. Choice of sealed or standard (depending on how much you want to spend).

If you're getting them mail order, make sure they include an acid pack to fill it with (they don't always and it is tricky to get hold of).

As a general rule, you get what you pay for. A budget make like 'sprint' will last maybe two years. A more expensive, sealed 'exide' battery will probably last five or six years. Varta probably falls somewhere between the two.


Are exide the best? Found a EB10L-A2 for my GS for £30.
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 08 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your battery is really nine years old, it is almost certainly dead.

You only need to add acid if you've lost acid (by spilling it), add de-ionised water for normal loss through heat/evaporation.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 08 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hein Gerikie (sp?) keep a fairly good stock of batteries and they'll fill them with acid for you.

Just try to get out of the shop without being sold a rainsuit and a new lock as well Smile

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PostPosted: 15:43 - 08 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having tried 4 or 5 different batteries, I would only buy one direct from Kawasaki. More expensive yes, but the cheaper ones I have purchased have been utter pish.

finpos wrote:
Hein Gerikie (sp?) keep a fairly good stock of batteries and they'll fill them with acid for you as well.

Just try to get out of the shop without being sold a rainsuit and a new lock as well Smile

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You forgot the obligatory 1litre bottle of FS365 too.
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 08 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You forgot the obligatory 1litre bottle of FS365 too.



they can try but I use waxoyl...
waiting for a reply form cradley for a kawasaki one,

I think it is origioanal, or tleast very very old, I've had the bike for 2 wintersand the guy before me didnt change it. I have no receipt for a batteyr but have past ones for brake pads... could well be.. unlikely, but it's old and fubbard... we think
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 08 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:

Are exide the best? Found a EB10L-A2 for my GS for £30.


Well, they're a widely used make. I certainly bought a sealed one from Halfrauds for my MZ that threw the starter over noticeably harder (and for longer when it was being a twat to start) than the original Bosche 'open' one.

I replaced it after reports of a few of the batteries exploding during off-road use. Being directly under my arse, I decided to play safe.
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 08 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone had dealings with 'sprint' batteries?
drayton croft:
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The acid is included in the price. We don't stock any other make of battery.
We haven't experienced any problems with these batteries, but they come with a 12 months warranty anyway


and I can nip and collect that so save £5 on postage...
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 08 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Toby R wrote:

Are exide the best? Found a EB10L-A2 for my GS for £30.


Well, they're a widely used make. I certainly bought a sealed one from Halfrauds for my MZ that threw the starter over noticeably harder (and for longer when it was being a twat to start) than the original Bosche 'open' one.

I replaced it after reports of a few of the batteries exploding during off-road use. Being directly under my arse, I decided to play safe.


The exide was exploding? :/

So if I run a normal old battery at the moment it can be swapped for a sealed one?

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PostPosted: 17:14 - 08 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:


The exide was exploding? :/

So if I run a normal old battery at the moment it can be swapped for a sealed one?

T


Yes, varadero and nsr had sealed batteries, so when i got the gpz I forgot to keep an eye on it and it ran dry Neutral
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 08 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple wrote:
Toby R wrote:


The exide was exploding? :/

So if I run a normal old battery at the moment it can be swapped for a sealed one?

T


Yes, varadero and nsr had sealed batteries, so when i got the gpz I forgot to keep an eye on it and it ran dry Neutral


https://www.batmanuk.com/

Do exide motorcycle batteries, if you go to Exide homepage (Google) then you can find the code to look up in that list.

Guy does one for mine £30 delivered, filled with acid and fully charged. Shocked
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 08 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

£30 plus Vat... and I gota wait for delivery.. looks like I'll be getting a Sprint for £19 off drayton croft with acid and charged.
Can get a varta for £30 from alf englands, but can't see the point if I'm planning on changing bikes.

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PostPosted: 21:16 - 08 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sprint are a bit shit - 12 months if you are lucky. We are stopping dealing with them in favour of Varta which are a lot better. Yuasa are probably the best, but you will pay for it. Not had any dealings with Exide though.
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 08 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sprint come with a 12 month warranty, so drayton croft say...

how long will a varta last.. 2 year.. more?

varta is £30 if I want one now, not posted, the sprint is £19 for the same...

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PostPosted: 22:20 - 08 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drayton Croft are muppets, I've seen far too much of their crap customer service and poor attitude to ever contemplate buying anything from them no matter how cheap it is.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 08 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit late now but Gel batteies are better than lead acid and Glass mat are better than Gel. But for the cranking power and long life you pay a bit extra. Well worth it if you plan keeping the bike.

I have a Hawker Odyssey battery on my bike(glass mat type). So much power cranking the bike over and lasted 5 months (with the alarm on) without use and started first time. They also have a 2 year guarentee. Wink
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattEMulsion wrote:
Drayton Croft are muppets, I've seen far too much of their crap customer service and poor attitude to ever contemplate buying anything from them no matter how cheap it is.


I'm a student, I know they're mostly incompitent but they're cheap so I'll use them. I'm no way faithful to them nor would I buy a bike from them.

Alf englands or Robsome racing for me, for servicing and tyres. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Sprint batteries, reputedly named because you are always sprinting to a dealer for a new one. Had a load of them on the 125s and their life expectancy if not used all the time is poor (often less than 6 months of actual use).

Yuasa and Varta both have a decent reputation. Have a Dieter battery on the FZR which seems fine, and a lot better for starting than the battery it replaced (which was only a bit over a year old).

All the best

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PostPosted: 00:04 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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Sprint batteries, reputedly named because you are always sprinting to a dealer for a new one. Had a load of them on the 125s and their life expectancy if not used all the time is poor (often less than 6 months of actual use)


Yup.

I have had 2 or 3. I think these days they supply their batteries with a 2 year warranty. The warranty may actually be quite effective but only if you want to keep going back to the dealer for a replacement.

I think they bank on people not taking up the warranty instead going for a better, reliable make. Mad
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PostPosted: 00:07 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Put it this way, I have a brand new unused Sprint battery in the garage to fit the 125s. And the next time I need a battery I will buy a decent one rather than bother to fill that one with its acid.

All the best

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PostPosted: 00:09 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

hiya ok how to solve your problem is to Change the earth Wire to the body with a Thicker one and it will start first time in the cold or the rain my old Suzuki Gs used to do it done that Start's up first time with out fail Hope this help's
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PostPosted: 00:12 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:

If you're getting them mail order, make sure they include an acid pack to fill it with (they don't always and it is tricky to get hold of).

A bit off topic but this happened to me. Resolved by wondering into a local tyre and battery place and smiling sweetly. They filled my battery for a couple of quid.
Halfords treated me like a terrorist for even daring to ask if I could buy battery acid Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
Bit late now but Gel batteies are better than lead acid and Glass mat are better than Gel. But for the cranking power and long life you pay a bit extra. Well worth it if you plan keeping the bike.

I have a Hawker Odyssey battery on my bike(glass mat type). So much power cranking the bike over and lasted 5 months (with the alarm on) without use and started first time. They also have a 2 year guarentee. Wink


Finga: Is Glass mat referred to as AGM?

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