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Rhino
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PostPosted: 09:22 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Extreme condensation!! Reply with quote

My car's got an extreme case of condensation build-up. All the windows in the other cars in the street are clear, but mine look iced up! Shocked

A couple of weeks ago, just after the cold snap, I even sprayed de-icer on the outside of the windows, and the ice didn't melt. Know why? Cos it was water on the inside! Embarassed Laughing

So, can anyone recommend how I can stop this happening, or give an indication of why it is happening? There's still a load of pines in the back from when I dumped the Christmas tree. It wouldn't be these giving there last, would it? Question Razz

Any help gratefully received! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

That happened to my friends car once, it was a slightly older car (10yrs old) and she'd left the aircon vents open and it was getting in that way.

Might be some help Smile
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

living stuff respires and produces water , could well be the pine thingies in the back ,

carrots are still alive when you put them in plastic bags,
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
living stuff respires and produces water , could well be the pine thingies in the back ,

carrots are still alive when you put them in plastic bags,


Tehcnically no, everything starts to die when you take it out the ground/cut it's roots.

Carrots and Parsnips have a tendancy to "sweat" though Thumbs Up

Working on the Produce section of a Sainsburys you tend to pick up stupid things like that!
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers peeps, I'll try closing the vents. How did you know it was an old car? 20 years - that's older than most people on here. Wink

I'll get those fecking pines vacuumed one of these days too. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you run the heater do you have it circulating?

If you just circulate the air in the car and don't allow air from outside in, it will become condensation filled. I knocked the switch on my old Xantia and couldn't understand why it filled up with water until I noticed.

Get the fan on, sucking in air from outside. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhino wrote:
Cheers peeps, I'll try closing the vents. How did you know it was an old car? 20 years - that's older than most people on here. Wink

I'll get those fecking pines vacuumed one of these days too. Embarassed


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PostPosted: 18:04 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

could be numerous things, the cars i have fixed with this fault it seems to normally originate from a seal. check the seals around your doors and boot. If there ok check the car to see if any of the carpets are slightly damp as this could help in finding the source, damp front carpets could be your sunroof / washer run off pipe blocked. Damp boot could be the seal around the rear lights are leaking.
once you have found the source and fixed it, the best way to dry your car out ( i find ) is to use big bags of desicent which i have loads if you require some.

what car is it and i might be able to diagnose the prob in one.
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Alex, I was goona rate your post helpful, but it says I cn't rate anymore today. Question Question

It's a Golf MkII. Completely bog standard. It's been gradually getting worse over the last few months. I'll give all the seals a check tomorrow. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers guys,

once you have found the main damp patch ( hehe ) let me know i will hopefully be able to diagnose better.

also check under your spare wheel as that is normally a common one for holding water.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Re: Extreme condensation!! Reply with quote

Rhino wrote:
A couple of weeks ago, just after the cold snap, I even sprayed de-icer on the outside of the windows, and the ice didn't melt. Know why? Cos it was water on the inside! Embarassed Laughing


I take it you haven't been driving long?

Ice at night (or even just cold) on the windscreen + Sunshine in the morning = Condensation

Its all part and parcel of a owning car I'm afraid.
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above, damp wheel well or floor mats.
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of the three mates cars I've seen with a condensation problem, two of them had a leaky heater matrix which was slowly but steadily dripping coolant into the drivers side footwell.
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PostPosted: 01:52 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Of the three mates cars I've seen with a condensation problem, two of them had a leaky heater matrix which was slowly but steadily dripping coolant into the drivers side footwell.


I bet they are fords Wink
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope. A citroen AX and a Hyundai Accent. The Hyundai is forgiven because it has done over 180,000 miles and only cost £450 three years ago.

The Citroen was a pain in the arse. You had to dismantle the entire diash to change the matrix.
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Of the three mates cars I've seen with a condensation problem, two of them had a leaky heater matrix which was slowly but steadily dripping coolant into the drivers side footwell.


There was a recall on the mkII Golf about a million years ago for that very problem too.

Always did fog up like a bastard though, even without a leaky matrix. Seemed to be a Golf 'thing'.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: And the winner is.... Reply with quote

AlexHornet and Stinkwheel. I think. Laughing

I had a little look around the car and the passenger footwell is wet under the mat after the rain today. It seems that the trim had been displaced under the glove box, and under the bonnet too. Perhaps the water was being routed into the footwell? I've tried fixing these the best I can and if it persists I'll follow the heater matrix thing - hope it's in the Haynes. Alex, would you have suggested the heater matrix for passenger footwell?

Adjusted the clutch while I was at it too. Cool

BTW I paid £400 for the Golf 18 months ago, 69,000 miles and FSH and old bills MOT's etc. It's in good nick inside and out too. Smile

Thanks for the thoughts and advice everyone!
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

as for the heater matrix, i would only go for that if your coolant is getting low and if the car is runnung hotter than normal.

i reckon it is your water run off pipe, have this fault alot on cavaliers.

have a look at the back of the engine bay ( when ur looking at the car ) at the bulk head / firewall. you should have some sort of elephants trunk ( a rubber long boot ) that drains the water off onto the floor when it rains etc. i reckon it will be clogged up full of shit hence the water having to somewhere, e.g in your footwell, so if you can, get ur fingers in there and clean out all the pap ( you will be suprised how much horrible stuff is in there - leaves, mud, bugs etc ) i reckon it will do the trick.
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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check the seals around your doors


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On a more serious note I had the same problem on an ibiza, passenger side footwell. never did find where it was from. It could have been anything from a seal to a gromet missing from the bulkhead.

Get something absorbant and leave it on the floor with a heavy book or catalgue on top to try and soak up the worst. If you leabe it theres a chance it could start to rot and stink a bit.

Another thing to do is to see if it leaks in with the car pointing uphill or downhill and start parking accordingly until you get it sorted!! Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 08:59 - 01 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

alexhornet wrote:
as for the heater matrix, i would only go for that if your coolant is getting low and if the car is runnung hotter than normal.

i reckon it is your water run off pipe, have this fault alot on cavaliers.

have a look at the back of the engine bay ( when ur looking at the car ) at the bulk head / firewall. you should have some sort of elephants trunk ( a rubber long boot ) that drains the water off onto the floor when it rains etc. i reckon it will be clogged up full of shit hence the water having to somewhere, e.g in your footwell, so if you can, get ur fingers in there and clean out all the pap ( you will be suprised how much horrible stuff is in there - leaves, mud, bugs etc ) i reckon it will do the trick.


Christ mate, you're scary! Shocked I didn't mention it in my earlier post, but I did clear a load of crap from there. Leaves, reed things and a fag butt too. Laughing

Hopefully its sorted. Once it dries out I'll be able to see if it does it again. Cheers again. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

always glad to help!
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 03 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop shagging in your car. Thumbs Up
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