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 Posted: 18:07 - 08 Feb 2007 Post subject: Inheritance Tax - New Petittion |
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I was recently sent a link to the wonderful Number 10 petitions site. A national paper has started a campaign to abolish IHT from our robbing goverment.
so far it has got well over 34,000 signatures and seems to be growing by around 10-15 a minute.
Please just take a moment of your time to sign your name.... then after that wait a minute to refresh the page and watch your name move quickly up the list!
Its just a polite reminder to Gordon 'Bastard' Brown that people are getting fed up with IHT and also to kindly stop raping the hard working people of this country...
For the record... IHT is an utter disgrace and its a really insult when you are forced to hand over the money of a loved one who has recently passed on
>>LINK<< >> https://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ihtcrusade
Please take the time to pass this around to any one/group you know may be interested.
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| moonym20 |
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 Posted: 22:41 - 08 Feb 2007 Post subject: |
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cheers guys
if you keep an eye on the stats you will see the numbers going up... nearly 2,500 have signed since i did just a few hours ago.
It could be hoped that media interest will ignite a good debate once they see how many people are upset about it.
Please spread the word, who knows mabye the 'bastards' we (largely) call politicians will take note
Its so annoying, the only loop hole open has now been shut and made harder.. a very close person to myself passed away several years ago, all the money had to be placed into various savings etc for over seven years before it can be touched... it still will be TAXed however not to the robbing extent those wankers want
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So if we eradicate this kind of tax, what will they do to claw back that awfully large defecit?
Can't but help think its a very stupid poll but for the love of it, I can't get any enthusiasm to research it and come up with a decent argument.  |
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| moonym20 |
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thats a fair comment.. and your right, they most likley will try to claw back lost funds because thats the way they are...
unfortunatly is a position most people won't understand until they are faced with it... there is nothing more upsetting and insulting than the tax man stood at your door ordering you hand over the loved ones hard earned cash ____________________ A scientist crossed a skunk with an owl. He's got a bird that smells but doesn't give a hoot  |
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| instigator wrote: | So if we eradicate this kind of tax, what will they do to claw back that awfully large defecit?
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Make massive cuts in public services that I dont use, and radically modernise ones that I might do to make them more efficient.
For starters, reverse the ridiculously high pay rise that GPs got recently.
On the subject of doctors, i think they should stop employing doctors that have been trained to much lower standards in foreign countries, until they have passed english medical exams.
Also old doctors who have never bothered to refresh their knowledge should have regular exams on new developments.
No armed forces, no more invading countries because america says so.
No royal family, and they have to pay tax on everything they own. If they want to use things that belong to the country they have to pay for them.
Prisons turned into factories where they make useful things, and then sell them.
Voluntary euthenasia available to anyone who claims a state pension, or pension from public sector job.
No more farm subsidies.
You dont get shop subsidies, or call centre subsidies, so why farm subsidies. Ludicrous. If they go out of business, good. Welcome to the real world where jobs arent for life. |
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| Vincey B |
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I dont really think they thought out the statement very well:
"We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to ensure that inheritance tax is scrapped in this year's Budget"
Sounds a bit childish to me.
They could have said instead:
"We the undersigned never really cared about Inheritance tax before as the £275,000 free allowance meant that most people didnt have to pay anything, but since the house price boom we have suddenly realised that we might have to pay something to get hold of our parents suddenly very expensive property."
And the free untaxed limit goes up to £285,000 this year.
https://www.hmrc.gov.uk/rates/inheritance.htm
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Trusts are a grey area , there are two trusts , bad and worse ,
Both if given while you are alive still eat into your 275K 'free limit'
Bad , still gives rise to small charges but sort of acts like a big fat bank account
where you are allowed the interest but not the capital.
Worse as above but ALL income cept dividends is taxed @ 40% before it gets into
the hands of the beneficiary.
Problem is with trusts is you have to trust the trustees , trustees I work with often take
60% of the income for 'trust management' and give 40% to the beneficiary.
I do know about 3 ways to avoid the tax , but its not really avoidance since you still have
to pay for the tax its just sort of paying it but not out of your pocket.
Frog , this might work , but relies on trust , ie my dad has a fair wedge , he may marry
the girlie I'm trying to get into the sack, but if she suddenly had my Dad's wedge would she
stay with me? , no.
There may also be an overturning as this might be considered a sham and therefore such
tax free rules not apply, HMRC is a law into itself , since it self regulates ie tax inspectors
sit on the appeal committees , what it says is canon.
lots of things should work but the anti avoidance rules are vast and biblical, ie selling everything
for 1p to anybody but a stranger = connected party rule ,
Giving your house to your sprog, while living in it = gift with covenant , so it gets hammered by
both inheritance tax and capital gains tax.
There is a really silly avoidance method it works but it involves NR750s , NR750s you say yet tax
avoidance using NR750s,a motorbike, thing is NR750s are rare, ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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| froggeh wrote: | | itchy wrote: |
Frog , this might work , but relies on trust , ie my dad has a fair wedge , he may marry
the girlie I'm trying to get into the sack, but if she suddenly had my Dad's wedge would she
stay with me? , no.
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I asked my boss he said no there is anti avoidance law to prevent sham weddings
they over turn it , your gift , suddenly becomes a chargable transfer = tons of tax. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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I wrote lots and deleted it, as I think I'm going over old ground over and over, (you got
ripped off btw)
you can avoid IHT very easily the problem is it tends to fall into other types of tax,the
goal of the game here is to pay as little tax as possible.
trusts avoid IHT but fall into income tax and Trust self assessment up to 40% tax before
it lands in the wallets of your children
gifts (to connected parties which is very very wide definition) avoid IHT but fall into
capital gains
very small gifts are tax free,
capital gains avoidance falls into IHT
its all circular! ,
there are all sorts of rules designed to prevent selling things for 1p to avoid tax, buying things
hours before you die etc. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 18 years, 300 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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