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Cog Head
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 24 Feb 2007    Post subject: CBR 400 vs VFR 400 Reply with quote
pros and cons of each

power differences
-acceleration
-top speed
-handling

reliability

discuss
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 25 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 25 Feb 2007    Post subject: Re: CBR 400 vs VFR 400 Reply with quote
Cog Head wrote:
pros and cons of each

power differences
-acceleration
-top speed
-handling

reliability

discuss


Acceleration and top speed = Nearly the same, so near that you won't notice the difference.

Handling: About the same but they are both old bikes so even if one was better than the other the ravages of time would level the playing field.

The CBR is an inline four, so easier to work on and less expensive to service.

The VFR is a V4 which is complex, has two cylinder heads instead of one, and has very complex valve gear. It is also a bastard to work on compared to the CBR.

I'll let you draw your own conclusions from that.

Price and availability of non shagged ones may sway you though.

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PostPosted: 00:57 - 25 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
C'mon,

you shouldn't really ask people to draw their own conclusions. Otherwise you get results like this.

The last of Marjay's point is the most valid of all when it comes to finding 400's!

Try an NC35? They're generally more cared for
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PostPosted: 01:01 - 25 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Buy a modern 600 and stop wasting time on antiquated stuff every teenage spunky boil and his mate has thrashed the arse off.


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PostPosted: 01:09 - 25 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Having said that, i just sold my ZXR250 today and feel that i'm going to regret it. You buy a small sportsbike for the fun that no other bike can offer so i guess that's where the kick is. There's a multitude to chose from, but some or if not full service history is a MUST! I feel that i'd miss out a whorde of blissful biking experience if i jumped straight on a 600 and makes bigger bikes riddled with anticipation. Won't be surprising if in a few years time, i'd be looking for a 400cc bike to restore and rebuild to its former glory!
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PostPosted: 02:07 - 25 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Titz wrote:
Having said that, i just sold my ZXR250 today and feel that i'm going to regret it. You buy a small sportsbike for the fun that no other bike can offer so i guess that's where the kick is. There's a multitude to chose from, but some or if not full service history is a MUST! I feel that i'd miss out a whorde of blissful biking experience if i jumped straight on a 600 and makes bigger bikes riddled with anticipation. Won't be surprising if in a few years time, i'd be looking for a 400cc bike to restore and rebuild to its former glory!


What former glory?

You get X amount of bikes of the same cc's. Put riders on them on a track and get them to go round and round for X amount of times as fast as they all can til one wins. Then you do it with bikes of another cc and make a list to hype it all up.

What makes the quickest bikes glorious? it's just physics not gladiators in ancient rome.

Don't believe the hype.

Also 'fun that no other bike can offer' That can be said about each and every bike. They all fit their own niche. Doesnt make any of them glorious or so individual that they break the mould and declare it a public holiday. Don't drown in your own cult of self epic.

Whatever you have, get on it and ride. That's about all there is too it. Don't think you have to ride in a certain way or ride certain roads or ride a certain type of bike or wear certain gear... to fit in. If you do then you are not a proper biker - your a marketing consumer of the disposable society and nanny state the real motorbikers fight against. A proper biker sticks his fingers up to the norm and what is expected of him and lives and acts on the fringes of society, mocking the sheep in their daily trudge through sad unhappy lives. A proper biker is a loner, a roaming cowboy, not a 'just like the next bloke at the cafe in his new for the season gear' kind of biker.

Alas this is what happens when a whole spirit of being is turned into a mass marketed phenomenon by salesman, journo's and the gullible who believe in all the shit wank stained hype and glossy pages.

So shut up me to myself you old fart that I am.

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PostPosted: 03:31 - 25 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
VFR Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 25 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
- power differences - Marginal, 60rwbhp if you're lucky.
- acceleration - Marginal - Cibber's better off the line, quarter mile around 13s.
- top speed - Marginal - 130mph maybe
- handling - Marginal

- reliability - Marginal, Cibber's easier to work on

Test ride both, find out which you prefer, everything else is just sceptical.

My money would be on the V4 for reasons discussed far too many times on this forum, I'm on my third one now.
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 25 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
RVF's are the best (Most Expencive) Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 26 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Fine a good example of either and given them a test ride.
If u want a 400 get a 400 dont listen to people who seem obsessed with getting everyone to upgrade to the largest bike possible. Im gonna pick up a vfr800 at some point this year but my rvf400 will be kept for a summer ride Cool
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 26 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Do a search, I remember making a post on this not long ago and I said after owning both I'd go for the CBR every time.
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 26 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
carlosfandango wrote:

What former glory?

You get X amount of bikes of the same cc's. Put riders on them on a track and get them to go round and round for X amount of times as fast as they all can til one wins. Then you do it with bikes of another cc and make a list to hype it all up.

What makes the quickest bikes glorious? it's just physics not gladiators in ancient rome.

Don't believe the hype.

Also 'fun that no other bike can offer' That can be said about each and every bike. They all fit their own niche. Doesnt make any of them glorious or so individual that they break the mould and declare it a public holiday. Don't drown in your own cult of self epic.

Whatever you have, get on it and ride. That's about all there is too it. Don't think you have to ride in a certain way or ride certain roads or ride a certain type of bike or wear certain gear... to fit in. If you do then you are not a proper biker - your a marketing consumer of the disposable society and nanny state the real motorbikers fight against. A proper biker sticks his fingers up to the norm and what is expected of him and lives and acts on the fringes of society, mocking the sheep in their daily trudge through sad unhappy lives. A proper biker is a loner, a roaming cowboy, not a 'just like the next bloke at the cafe in his new for the season gear' kind of biker.

Alas this is what happens when a whole spirit of being is turned into a mass marketed phenomenon by salesman, journo's and the gullible who believe in all the shit wank stained hype and glossy pages.

So shut up me to myself you old fart that I am.

Mr. Green


I'd like to point and laugh at you. But I have no idea what you are trying to say there... so I won't bother.

Are you the guy who went out and bought a busa about six weeks after passing your test? If that is the case then you can't possibly know what you are missing out on.

Thats on the basis that you are trying to say something about 400's not being all they are cracked up to be... which you might not be.
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
love it how everyone ignored fandango. Agree with the last comment made Thumbs Up he sure did talk some useless crap there. VFR to reply to the original post, theyre awesome, wish i never sold mine, the gsxr400s causing a few carb problems
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