50cc First Bikes...

[Jamie S]

Right I have decided I am going to look in to getting a 50 ready for when I can take my cbt. Right I have had a piaggio nrg a while ago it had no plastics on the front and I used it off road, It was ok but I wouldn't really want to have a ped, I would rather a bike with gears and a clutch, maybe a rs50 or some other 50, maybe even an off road supermoto styled bike. Now then I plan to get a bike that needs a bit of work and spend time sorting it for when im 16.
now then what good 50s are there out there ?
and what would be the cheapest I should be looking to pay for on that needs a bit of work ? also whats high milage for a 50, eg before they start to need new pistons and stuff ?
cheers,
Jay

[Anton]

[nick606]

redundant was a bit harsh really he is asking a question here.
erm i think the rs50s need/suggest a rebuild every 8000km... as well as regular refilling of 2t oil (every third fill up or so) and chain tighening and lubing every 500km.... basically the manual suggests you change stuff every 8000km and clean every 4000km but spark plugs it says clean every 1000km and change every 3000km but i will be near impossible to find one with this actually done to as most have been owned by poor 16 year olds who rag the tits off it

nick

[0ddball]

Go look at the moon Jamie.

[Ciarans-special]

Two words.. Honda.. 50, the legend that is!

[ncrn]

Just ride a ped, mine lasted for the year and I did no maintainance to it, as I wasn't aware they needed maintaining outside of dealer services

I do look after my bike now though ^^
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[st3v3]

Agree with ncrn, mt first ped was a honda sfx 50 twist and go, i did no maintenance except re charge the battery and buy a new rear tyre.

Jaime, look for something cheap and cheerful like a honda 50 as said, they don't really go wrong and the amount of them still around today is testament to their build quality. just try to get something with less plastic panels cos when they break, they are the most feckin expensive bits, and the ped won't look right without the fairing.

Good luck.
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[JAMSXR]

I had an sfx it was ok did the job (slowly). My bro had a Gilera Runner and that was not bad, but geard 50's just seem a bit pointless to me because you are having to use 5 gears to reach 50mph could get a bit tiresome. Saying that my pal in france had a Derbi Sender (with power valve) and that flew for a 50cc.
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[Finglonga]

[Jamie S]

Yes thats why I want gears, I dont want to look like a unroadworthy twat on a ped simple as.
I have rode motorbikes bikes Since I was 5/6 ish allways had gears so why go to twist and go now.
gears and cluth ftw

[cokker]

[MarJay]

Anton Boring
Dan 4RR Boring
mrtEE Boring
john2 Boring
lllN30lll Boring


Would any of you lot rate this thread boring if it had been started by anyone other than Jamie?

He's making an effort to create threads which both he and forum members can participate in!

There is plenty of stuff on here that I find boring. In fact, most of the forum these days is utter drivel. However I don't have a personal vendetta against anyone and certainly don't go round rating things boring, unless someone is being genuinely repetitive and covers the same tired old subjects again and again. If I don't want to read something, I don't read it. Simple innit?

The beauty of this forum is you can hide the areas you don't want to read (such as dear aunty BCF, and current affairs for me) You can't ignore specific topics admittedly but thats the whole point of general bike chat and Random banter. You take the rough with the smooth. One mans meat is another mans poison etc etc.

As long as Jamie is posting about bikes in the bike area, and posting stuff that doesn't fit into any other area in random, and he isn't being abusive, and he's making an effort to not reply with one or two words in every thread, what harm is he doing?

There are plenty of fifteen year old n00bs who come on here and post less legible and less relevant stuff about 50cc bikes. In fact, a great number of them get very pissed of when people moan about the spelling or TXt SPk and then leave. Jamie has made an effort, and hasn't thrown a strop and flounced off the forum when people moan about his spelling and grammar, so how come all the other kidz don't get 5 boring ratings?

The REALLY Interesting part about those ratings is, they are all from young kids themselves, who actually often annoy other members of the forum (including myself occasionally) but in the spirit of live and let live, no one has opened a karma vendetta against them.

If you could rate ratings, yours would all be redundant IMO.

{edit} Cue the "I'm no kid, I'm eighteen!" comments {edit}
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[JakeyR]

[Jamie S]

Jake is your bike in your avatar a 50? If so what is it ?

[sagiliam]

[Mjolnir]

I'm uncertain about how useful gears are on a 50cc to be honest. For someone learning to ride a bike so that they can contine to move up through the ranks (50->125->600+ etc) then I would imagine the use of gears and clutch control would be invaluable later when it comes to taking tests and those skills are important.

You, however, seem to have a knowledge of bikes and some basic skills anyway from reading your posts so I don't know whether the RS50 would be of any benefit.

That said a geared bike is still a bike and not a scooter but hey if it has 2 wheels and an engine right?

Check out a few and see what you like best. If the bike and the scooter both hit 50mph do you really need to work your arse off getting there with those gears?

Think about how long your keeping it for and how useful it is. You move up to something bigger at 17 right?

[cagiva gezzer]

Firstly, (without being funny) 14st is going to give any 50cc a hard time.

Trying to find ORK12's old picture... . . .

I'd go for a geared bike as it'll have better suspension to cope with the weight.

Thinking about it, you wont be changing gears *that* fast as my senda with the gf on the back was a bit reluctant to get up to 50mph.

Oh, and it's not just getting there, it's slowing down as well.

The old Senda R's are nice bikes, just don't go messing with the engines as they're 8bhp as std. Got mine up to ~12bhp but it had a hard time maintaining it for more than 500miles.

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[st3v3]

Marjay, it's all the same, some members are soo bored generally they find it interesting and maybe fun to do this, make jamie strop off and never be heard from again.

Jamie, you have said before about your background, and your spare time, so don't let them bother you, I got stick when I joined cos my posting material wasn't so relevant, but everyone's over that now, just stick it out and all should be well, imo they are just filtering out the noobs we get and the members who generally stay cos they have come across a valuable resource.
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[Ork12]

I'm I reet fat bastard and my rs50 would still do 45mph on TOMTOM 50 indicated and was more than enough @ 16, loved it to bits when I had it, but the 2 stroke oil costs mucho
Alex

[nick606]

tbh a 50 is going to teach you a lot about gears because you have to be in the right gear all the time to get the power.. what little power there is (if you jump a gear you will now about it because it will struggle to gain speed). im 9 stone and my 50 gets to 60ish on the flat 65ish on a long slightly sloped road im guessing (clock stops at 50 but it goes well past) ive had a few friends on the back on private rd ofc : ) it does struggle at bit setting off on hill starts guessing hes another 12 stone though.. acceleration is ok beats a 1L up to about 15 lol and he was ragging it.. a man in a z4 did burn me off though i think he though i was wanting a race but in actual fact i was just trying to get in front of the granny mobile next to me

[phil_DT]

Its gota be the one and only bullet proof DT50MX!! Parts are cheap and easy to find!
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[Whosthedaddy]

https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=21144

Sorry for this one Ork, but this is quite funny

https://img477.imageshack.us/img477/7380/1bl6.jpg
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[JAMSXR]

[Ork12]

I miss my lullubelle she must of really struggled with me, but I loved her long time!

[Brod122]

Instant <3 to Ork

This isnt sarcasm btw