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Posted: 00:16 - 06 Mar 2007 Post subject: Gang rape victim sentenced to 90 lashes |
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Hi. I remember a story a while back about some teenage girl who was raped and then was hanged as a punishment (again in the middle east) ____________________ Humans....the largest form of cancer the world has ever seen!
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I don't think religion should be banned, just the practising of it in any public place, people shouldn't be allowed to show what religion they follow or knock on other people's doors and con the nieve into believing that there is a greater being. Unless that is if people would like to watch bill and ted and follow the wild stallions. ____________________ Tristan the wrote: just whipped off my trousers to find a big bruise on my arse, caused by matt rear ending me... |
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Tarmacsurfer wrote: | Mister James wrote: | Our own Church of England is almost the ideal state religion - it's moral framework roughly represents where we are as a nation today, without it having much (any) influence over our government or law. |
That almost merits a "funny" rating. Whilst the C of E may, as you postulate, put forth a basically decent moral framework it has so little impact in modern society as to be insignificant. It has almost no influence in government or law, and less in the "real world". In that respect I'm inclined to agree, it is indeed a good representation of "where we are as a nation today", a decent set of morals that are totally ignored |
All you've done is re-hash what I'd already written! My point was that it is GOOD that the established church is not an established theocracy!
Personally, I'd like everyone to adopt a more 'Anglican Church' outlook on life, but I'm quite content to live in a society where I am not able to force my background on others. ____________________ >Soultrader Mister James, I bet you are a copper
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I'm 100% athiest myself, but so long as you obey the rules of the country while doing so, you ought to be able to practice any religion you please.
Anyone who wants religion banned, is as bad as any Muslim who wants to ban me or anyone who isn't muslim from drawing a picture of Mohammed or Allah.
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Nope , this does not make sense! , and anyway atheism is actually a faith, faith in no god = faith!.
the problem is religious people tend to brain wash their children this is pushing faiths onto them without
informed consent,
also ALL religions have a duty to convert the unbelievers,. I have a duty to convert the believers, and I shake
the faith of believers with excellent logic to defeat their crappy, conversion methods, trying to convert me is
like trying to justify voting in UK elections as a non resident.
Evil Deity theory works great
So does anti clock maker theory
So does wrong deity theory.
Wrong deity theory is my favourite , where somebody tries pascal's wager against you , where you ain't
got nowt to lose if you are a believer, I remember a story where a muslim converted an unbeliver somebody
else said yeah but what if A**** is the wrong deity? , wouldn't your deitty punish you even more harshly for
choosing the wrong one? . he promptly became aspostate.
Leave me alone though and you get left alone, I'm tired of Xians striking up random conversations in the
city when I'm trying to get some lunch, trying to convert me ,
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But to start saying we should ban religion is in effect saying we should ban free speech, and freedom of expression.
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Yeah but your beloved New Labour loves this, people wearing anti blair T-shirts are arrested under anti terror laws
heckling is now a terrorist officence (Walter Wolfgang , if the Journos hadn;t seen it he'd be found suicided in a
field), critique of religion is now also banned under religious hatered laws.
Curiously it (the anti hatered laws) was designed purely to buy Muslim votes , but it backfired cus such laws were used
against the very core voters they tried to bribe!
Glass houses and stones comes to mind. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Itchy wrote: | Nope , this does not make sense! , and anyway atheism is actually a faith, faith in no god = faith!.
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Agree. I have 'faith' that god does not exist. I am not in any way religious though
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the problem is religious people tend to brain wash their children this is pushing faiths onto them without
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Per-spec-tive
So does a non-religious person - I will probably instow a non-religious 'brain-washing' on my son
'informed consent' - Who is informed?
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also ALL religions have a duty to convert the unbelievers,. I have a duty to convert the believers, and I shake
the faith of believers with excellent logic to defeat their crappy, conversion methods, trying to convert me is
like trying to justify voting in UK elections as a non resident.
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I always try my best to convert religious people... its the same for ANYTHING you believe.
The voting... not gonna go there. I'm gonna play by whatever rules I'm handed. I aint gonna cheat.
Quote: | Yeah but your beloved New Labour loves this, people wearing anti blair T-shirts are arrested under anti terror laws
heckling is now a terrorist officence (Walter Wolfgang , if the Journos hadn;t seen it he'd be found suicided in a
field), critique of religion is now also banned under religious hatered laws.
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Can't stand New Labour.
Just can't stand the others more.
Labour NOWHERE near represent my beliefs.
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Curiously it (the anti hatered laws) was designed purely to buy Muslim votes , but it backfired cus such laws were used
against the very core voters they tried to bribe!
Glass houses and stones comes to mind. |
I think soime of the laws recently have been bonkers...
But then they don;t represent my beliefs...
I do however think everyone should try to be decent to other people... Simple
Do unto others...
Right bed... been out drinking for the 3rd night in a row and my kidneys ache |
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Also, judging from your posts I find it hard to believe you could shake a pair of maracas let alone the faith of a believer. |
touche' , and you even managed to slip in an insult, why what mythical fairy in the sky do YOU believe in ?
and anyway its just that converters always try 4 tricks on you:
pascal's wager ,
clock maker theory,
and the powers of a deity,
I'm better than you cus I believe, you even tried it in your post here
But as previously meantioned in a much older post organised religion is just a business and a great one at that , what other business other than lapdancing and strippers can sell the same 'product' over and over and over again at nearly zero base cost? . ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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froggeh wrote: | I do however think everyone should try to be decent to other people... Simple
Do unto others...
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how xian of you , its noble ,
infact
Leviticus
Don't steal or lie 19:11, 13
"Love thy neighbor as thyself." 19:18
but in this dog eat dog world , people will step over you just for a tiny advantage,
there was a research paper which said that nice people always do end up last, esp at work said that they help others at the expense to themselves , its why all the nice people never get above middle managers and the top 9 bosses are all pretty ruthless.
girlies and good guys is testiment to this fact! , since women always seem to leave and go off with men who treat them like crap. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching.
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Posted: 09:14 - 08 Mar 2007 Post subject: |
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froggeh wrote: | 'informed consent' - Who is informed?
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informed consent means that like for all contracts and EULAs you should read the small print seek evidence for and against, and make up your own mind as a responsible adult (and therefore not a minor) as to what to believe or not to believe.
www.skepticsannotatedbible.com
www.skepticsanontatedkoran.com
are useful resources for this purpose , although they are a bit of a piss take, they do list some of the 'good stuff' in them, and also the bad the contradictor etc.
the good to people thing is sort of lifted from the bible.
its like you saying me = Conspiracy believer, and the moon landings, I say don't know , the fact that the EU spent millions building a gigantic telepscope in Chillie , and there is the Hubble in Orbit which we can use to see the junk they left on the moon, this would clear up any deniers ,
yet the governments are kind of reluctant to direct a telescope to have a look , considering we have satellites in orbit than can measure your dick from space, the moon is just a small factor increase such theories exist due to lack of trust/faith in government as they have huge credibility gaps) ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 56 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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