keith(or any1) engine question

[batman]

my 2001 rs125 has 8700km on it and in the last 2 days has begun to sound funny
it sounds deep, as opposed to the usual whine, and it is havin trouble pickin up in the powerband
the throttle response is all different as well, it just feels and sounds wrong
any ideas?? i am about to replace the rings, is it more serious
thanx in advance

[craigT19]

an rs with engine trouble "SHOCK, HORROR"


sounds like the exhaust could do with de-coking mate
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Bikes owned :- 2001 nsr125, 1999 zx6r, 2006 yzf-r1, 2009 xmax 250, 2012 yzf-r1, 2015 MT-07
Current bike : - 2016 MT-10
BCF member pops. sadly missed 1945-2003

[Dan]

i can not belive that would happen to an apprilia!

[James]

Sounds like your carb could do with a clean out. The deep sound is probably caused by the air/fuel mixture being too lean and the bike gasping at low(ish) revs.
Its like having a bike thats running perfect and opening the throttle full when only at low revs. Try it out and listen to the induction noise.

Try cleaning out your carb. Exhaust cokeing up wont cause it.
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[TJ NSR]

i cant believe this, i thought RS were the most reliable bikes more than fazers and the goldwing!

[batman]

WOWEE i never saw this comin
real fun
the bike has done 8800 km and hasnt been in a bike shop at all for service
the rings need to be done, common sense, i was just wondering was this a normal thing from worn rings
very productive replies im gettin

[Scooby]

Sorry but is this the same Batman who always argues he knows everything about bikes..... yet he hasn't had his bike serviced since he's had it..... wake up and smell the coffee (cos you won't be smellin 2 stroke for much longer the way you're goin...)
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[craigT19]

batman i dont no much about rs's but i got my nsr survice after 600 miles and then every 2000miles since then.

your rings should last atleast 15thousand miles but if your bikes done 8thousand + miles on the same transmition oil then your rings are probably gone and it wouldnt surprise me at all i you found that your gearbox was shaged due to exsess wear cause by very very very thick and dirty oil.

bottom line regular survicing may seem expensive but its alot cheaper then what its gunna cost you to change your rings (if ther have gone)
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Bikes owned :- 2001 nsr125, 1999 zx6r, 2006 yzf-r1, 2009 xmax 250, 2012 yzf-r1, 2015 MT-07
Current bike : - 2016 MT-10
BCF member pops. sadly missed 1945-2003

[batman]

i never claimed to know anythin
i am not a mechanic, but that doesnt mean i dont know what speed shit goes etc
u dont need to be able to rebuild a bike to know about how quick they are
the bike has got as good as a service, i refused to pay some shit 200 quid to top up gear oil and replace a spark plug, i did this myself
the problem is almost certainly the rings, as its recommended u change them at 8000k on rs
i was just wondering had any1 any productive ideas to add, rather than the above nonsense

[Scooby]

Don't you mean replace gear oil......why do u need to top it up??? Not as if its going anywhere.....
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[tanner18]

bat man if you had baught an nsr we would be treating u like the caped crusader giving u respect and most definately any help u needed but u bought an rs which means we have to treat u like a two faced joker with a considerable amount of poison ivy up ya arse
sorry coulnt resist
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[Scooby]

You should go find an RS125 forum if there's one about. I doubt this very much as nobody has the time cos they're trying to get their bikes workin again.
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[tanner18]

if they ever worked in the first place
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[batman]

well, keith the bloke you all turn to for help has a fuckin rs125 and thats who i hoped would reply
didnt ask for the rubbish posted above
didnt ask any of you opinions, if you have nothin useful to contribute why do you bother?
also gear oil change every 12000km its not that
its losing compression, it is the rings i just wanted to know if the problem was somethin else aswell
thanx, you have been very useful

[Ropehead]

if your loosing compresion, it could be head gasket, skores in the bore, loose plug or fucked rings,
Just buy some rings head gasket do it ya self £40 max,,

Then sell it and get a TZR OOOOOOOOOOHHH now im in da shit

[tanner18]

chill out mate
were only aving a laugh were only like this coz weve ad alot of dickheads coming on this site slagging us and r bikes off every now and again we take the piss out of rs riders the reason why noone slags off keith is because he is always on this site and we know he aint here to just wind us up in fact hes the most useful member on this site the all knowing oracle
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[batman]

i have never slagged off nsr's 3 of my best mates have them, and i drive around with them all the time
i also wanted one, but went for the rs because it was a brilliant deal and i didnt want the same bike every1 else i knew had
i went to the place where i bought the bike and he wants to sell me a new piston and rings for 250 quid, but this sounds bollox as i havent run it hard
thanx for a real answer!
just dont have time to be doin shit myself, but fuckin chancing their arm cunts in bike shops(like the one i went to today!) piss me off a lot

[Scooby]

Keith is ok to have an RS125 because:-

a) WHEN it breaks down he can fix it AND
b) WHEN it breaks down he has other bikes to ride
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[Doddmaster]

Sorry scoob but if I remember rightly, Keith's has never broke down

[TiN]

Hey Batman...if you actually _read_ the first few posts, Craig and James do offer some possible solutions...I can't say how useful they are, but they did try to help!

...you're bound to get some digs around here, but they're generally about the bikes themselves, and not the rider, so please don't take things too personally (easier said than done, I know...)...

Take it easy mate...and you really should get the bike regularly serviced...you run the risk of getting your warranty void (if you give a $hit, that is...)

Tin

[batman]

i know yeah
all helpful stuff appreciated fully
i dont think it needs a piston replacement like the shop said, and am stuck between gettin both piston and rings for 250 or rings for maybe 150 in a garage
maybe might as well get whole thing done, but runnin around like a granny until the new shit wears in is gonna be gay!

[craigT19]

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Allthough MC City charged about £115 for my 12000mile service, most places are looking for £200-300 and the 16000mile can be upto £400 :cry: .... ZX's do seem to be pretty bad for the cost of serviceing in general.

[batman]

yes but i was asking for help, not grief which is the main part of what was posted! :lol:
200 euro is about 110 of yours, a mate of mine got charged 180 for nothing really, so 250 for the rebuild isnt all too bad. bike shops over here are in general complete pricks, coz bikers are few and far between, especially those with 2 strokes, which are very rare
most tend to have a 'fuck off its not a big bike' attitude, and only srvice bikes that were purchased in their garage

[Keen]

lads lads, why can't we all just get along?