i need advice. can any one help please?

[curryhead]

hi there ive just signed up to this website and i think its dead cool by the way. i am on the look out for a brand new bike and i like the aprillia and the honda but i dont know which to choose. basicly i want to know if the honda is reliable because i need to ride 30 miles per day ish. What sort of costs can i expect for servicing does it chew pistons like the aprilia and finnaly will i need to use fully synthetic 2 stroke oil to keep it sweet.

I also wanted to ask about the performance and handleing, are they any good and a match for the aprilia? many thanks
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[TiN]

Personally, if I was after a machine for daily commuting, I would steer clear of 2 strokes altogther, and would probably go for something like a CG...the CG would also offer a much more comfortable seating position throughout your journey...

...however, you don't mention what sort of roads you will be travelling on...and also whether you have/intend to pass your test...

...but I also know that it's much easier to tell someone not to buy a particular bike, than it is to take someone's advice! (if you understood that, you deserve a prize...)

Tin

[curryhead]

nope you are right i dont understand. i had a dt 125r before i got knocked off on my way to my test ha ha its not funny but it hurts and so does my leg still any way that was 5 months ago and in 2 months time il be able to walk and i cant wait to get another bike.i dont want a cg 125 coz they are shit. id be traveling through fast ish town roads and A roads mostly
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Plenty of peeple on here have new bikes and are happy with them.

Personally I'd ask if you really 'want' to get a new bike. Second hand ones can be bought at a fairly considerable discount even, those still under warranty. Not only do you have more money for leathers etc. but if you drop it/etc. you're not looking at losing as much for damaged fairings. Also TPFT will be cheaper and you may feel you don't need it.

Personally I would (and have done) gone for bikes arounf the £1000 range.

Whatever you do make sure you get a bike that can be derestricted, you *will* regret if you don't.


Oh yeah, my 91 model nsr was really reliable, loads better than my flat mates tzr at the time (neither have seen the light of day for quite a few months.)

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[TiN]

So I guess that you haven't passed your test yet?...but you do intend to?...if so, then I'd rather wait until you have your test pass certificate, and then go shopping for a bigger bike...

Tin

[Demonic69]

Everyone (even the RS riders) seem to agree that the NSR make a better town bike than the RS. It's more reliable too.
For speed th RS is generaly favourite.
AFAIK (and I know I'll get shouted at) The NSR is cheaper to maintain overall.
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[Phil.S]

or you can buy one off the exchange & mart forum.
already run in properly and d'r'd etc
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[TiN]

I was gonna mention yours Phil, but I weren't sure what your plans were!...any more news on the cheque?

Tin

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[Guest]

ive had a off roader before and i dont like the tyres brakes and susspension because they skid and slide and dive all too easily. so im after a road bike which i can thrash a bit impress the ladies and ride to work on. im not too bothered about comfort. ive thought about more powerfull bikes after i pass my test but i just cant afford the insurance £2500 on a 10 year old gs 500e third party only. that takes the P. oh i would probably buy a uk spec paralell import from bike world in essex. this would cost me £2995 otr. i have seen year old nsrs and rs bikes for that money with 5000 miles on the clock so id rather buy brand new. got all the shit already so im not worried about buying new gear

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>>ive had a off roader before and i dont like the tyres brakes and susspension because they skid and slide and dive all too easily. so im after a road bike which i can thrash a bit impress the ladies and ride to work on.<<
If this is with knobbly tyres, then that would explain it. The few times I managed to slide my KLR was when I was trying to (supermoto stylee )... A supermoto would be set up for road use with stiffer suspension and sticky road wheels etc, but if they're not to you likeing, fair enough.
Oh yeah IMO a KTM/CCM/etc supermoto looks loads better than a 125 sports bike, but then I've never been that bothered by fairing etc.

>>im not too bothered about comfort. ive thought about more powerfull bikes after i pass my test but i just cant afford the insurance £2500 on a 10 year old gs 500e third party only. that takes the P.<<
Quite a few poeple have mentioned that they have actually been offered *cheaper* insurance on 400s than 125s!... IF you have a look at my web site (click on the G at the bottom), there's a list of insurance companies and how much they quoted me... telebikes is definatley worth a call, they insured me for £500 on my
<------zx6r, TPFT, 22, 1Y NCB


>>oh i would probably buy a uk spec paralell import from bike world in essex. this would cost me £2995 otr. i have seen year old nsrs and rs bikes for that money with 5000 miles on the clock so id rather buy brand new. got all the shit already so im not worried about buying new gear.<<
Be *very* carefull with imports, just cos it says 'UK spec' doesn't mean that it can be derestricted like a UK bike a *lot* of people on here have had a lot of problems and some have been left with restricted bikes.

[Guest]

many thanks for your help you seem to talk sense il give your website a try then

[Guest]

oh bike world say that the bikes are uk spec i qouted the sales of goods act over the phone to them and they assure me that the uk bikes are the same as foreign ones. i asked about the lights and speedo and warranty and stuff and it all seems ok. they said the bike comes de restricted already but they can fit restrictors if you were mad and wanted 1

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>> they assure me that the uk bikes are the same as foreign ones. <<

This is contrary to allmost every experience of new imported bikes from people on this forum.... So it's probably worth getting it in writing so they can't try 'Nah, we didn't say that mate'

[TiN]

Didn't some of the guys mention that the UK 2002 NSR has a restricted CDI unit?...maybe that would bring it into line with the import spec...?

Just a thought...

Tin

[Kickstart]

Hi

I suspect for just 30 miles a day, either an NSR or an RS would be OK. In either case you would probably want to budget to replace the piston each year (better to do it when you have the time and can plan to do it). NSR tyres are likely to be cheaper, same for chains. Which i better for the journey depends on what kind of roads you are going to be riding on.

However, neither would be great. For the NSR you would probably have to fill with petrol every 3rd day, and not much less often on the RS. The cost of expensive 2 squeak oil will add onto the fuel bill. If you could pass your test then there are loads of small to mid range bikes that would do the job far better

All thebest

Keith

[Guest]

well how much is a piston and rings then what about the labour involved because i cant be fucked to try and do it my self

[Kickstart]

Hi

Probably around £200 to £300 to get the piston changed by a dealer, including parts. Depends to an extent where they get the parts from (eg, a full Aprilia top end gasket set is around £30, but to do the job you only need to disturb 2 proper gaskets which come to £5, and the head gasket is a pair of rubber O rings that can safely be reused a few times).

All the best

Keith

[curryhead]

Thank you Keith. i know now that i want this bike and now all i need to do is lick the bank managers arse to get a loan for it. Oh and start walking would be usefull too.
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