Obesity.

[xlizx]

This is how I think it is.
Raise awareness about good food/bad food. Don't demonise junk food. Promote exercise. Teach it at school, get it into their heads at an early age that a balanced diet is the way forward.
Make gyms cheaper! I'd prolly go, if it didnt cost like £30+ a month just to run around.
If smokers get demonised, then fat people should, I suppose. Both conditions are completely avoidable, and a drain on facilities in hospitals. But prevention is better than cure!

[killa]

[bazza]

[Huambo81a]

I`ve always prescribed to the view that its impossible to put on 2lbs of weight if you have only eaten 1lb of food.
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[Huambo81a]

[craigie b]

I caught the tale end of half ton hospital yesterday. Fuck me there was some gargantuos fucking objects on that show. Now let me point out that when I talk about morbidly obese, that that these were the kind of people I am talking about in previous posts, not simply being overweight.

Bingo wings like fucking bean bags.

Anyway, one of the women wanted her stomached stapled (or reduced in size) to stop her eating. She was so obese that the doctor said she had a 50/50 chance of surviving the ordeal and her psychological review recommended against her having the treatment.

Now faced with the choice of death by over eating, possible death by having her stomach cut down to a third of its size or loosing weight by reducing her calorie intake and training, she opts for the stomache staple ( and has to get a different psychologist to provide a positive review).

Now I'm fairly rational. If you came to me with 20 stone of ass candy swining from your hips and said please allow me to have an operation that may kill me becuase I want to loose wieght I would tend to think you was mental when the other alternative is safe and healhy

Anyway, she got the op and guess what...she still would get up and sneak in snacks. under the constant threat of her stomach exploding, (she stated she wanted the op so she could watch her daughter grow up) she still eats.

I'm of the opinion that some people are beyond helping....You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

[killa]

Craig, that's sick man , most people you see wondering around town are doing that because they can.
That woman you mentioned, you'd never see her out!

Obese people shouldn't be allowed to spend pound sterling in shops that sell food, they should be dealt coupons.
Coupons get you food, but not trolley loads.
If they are diagnosed with obesity, they get put on the list or something.
Firstly the embaressment should be enough, prevention is better than cure remember.
And if they were fuc*ing huge, they'd not be able to gorge on cake.
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[yambabe]

Yay Killa what a great idea, forget the black market in heroin lets have one in marsbars instead!

You are really making me angry now.

I am nowhere near the size of the sort of people you are talking about admittedly but if I wanted to be, who the FUCK are you to tell me that I can't? What gives you or anyone else the right to tell me what I get to spend MY hard-earned on? Just listen to yourselves!

FFS boy what next? "You are ugly so we are going to make you have plastic surgery because the rest of us find you offensive!"? Last people to try anything like that kinda went down in history as being somewhat notorious, oh yeah, that would be Hitler's nazis then........

You think I am less of a person because I am fat? Not so. You think I am ashamed of what I am? Also not so. You think my fat makes me unattractive? I can introduce you to many people who would tell you otherwise.

If people want to be fat, let them. It doesn't harm anyone else ("don't stand too close you might suffer from passive pie-eating" - yeah right) and it's nobody elses business. If someone close to you is piling on the pounds then talk to them and help them if you feel the need.

But to attempt to control someone's lifestyle and eating externally just because they cross over an arbitary line of what is socially acceptable? Over my dead body mate, and I can promise you that my body intends to be alive for a long time yet.........
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[craigie b]

[TheShaggyDA]

[bazza]

[yambabe]

LOL Bazza, pots & kettle......?

Thing is Craigie I'm not saying being immensely fat is a good thing. I'm not even saying don't set bars on certain activities (like flying perhaps?) that go on weight/size.

What I am saying is where do you draw the line at interfering in other people's lives and making their decisions for them? Do you starve a fat person? Bind a smoker's fingers so they can't hold a cig? Make druggies go cold turkey by locking them up til they are clean or dead? Take disabled people's kids off them in case they can't cope? Insist on Intelligent Speed Adaptors in all vehicles but especially those noisy motorbikes that you're going to restrict to x bhp anyway cos it's for their own good in the long run..........

You start eroding anybody's civil liberties in that insidious way and who knows where it will end? Let the truly grossly fat people suffer the consequences of their actions, if they want help to change then help them but if that doesn't make them want to change then fine, let them die for me.
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[JonB]

[yambabe]

[veeeffarr]

My cock and balls are morbidly obese, if it takes a specialised doctor to jack me off so fucking be it

[Shay HTFC]

(waiting for boring ratings )
Its not only clinically health related people that are the concern. Look how many of these 'You are what you eat' programs are on TV? How many overweight people do you read about wanting to lose weight, but seemingly can't.

It is their fault, but a lot of it can be put down to 'bad education'.

I am underweight through no will of my own. 6' and only 10 stones. I desperately want to put on weight, but it requires a lifestyle change. At the moment I eat when I want. I am lazy and only eat when I'm hungry. From my perspective I should be eating a proper meal 3 times a day. If I want to see change I have to adapt to this.

Likewise. Many of the overweight people looking to lose weight seem to be in the wrong lifestyle. They want food and they want it NOW. More emphasis needs to be put on good food.

I am not a good cook at all. I wish I could cook better food, but I fall under the laziness category. I would rather slap some breaded chicken breasts in the oven than spend an hour longer cutting up vegetables, preparing meats and sauces etc. I'm sure the same is said for 'most' obese people.

Food does not need to be taxed, but alternatives need to be HEAVILY encouraged. Laziness is the key here I feel. It is common knowledge that as countries get more and more advanced, the people get lazier. More and more trivial tasks are done automatically. Hell, you can live a life ordering everything on the internet.

Maybe supermarkets should be encouraged to heavily discount combinations of food that could be prepared and cooked healthily.
Maybe tax is an answer now? Tax the unhealthy foods, but put ALL the raised money into subsidising fruit and veg and potentially these 'combination' meals. I would love to be able to walk into a supermarket, pick up 10 items that all go together with an attached recipe and make it. At the moment the only things I can think of are those Ol Del Paso thingies.


The lifestyle needs to be changed. Bring back family meals and cooking for 6 people from scratch (How?, I have no idea!, but this 'family orientated' lifestyle also would help other anti-social aspects of today's culture). People are too lazy nowadays for their own good (also why obese people would rather watch TV than walk / jog around a park for a bit). What should the government do?

I believe that foods should be subsidised, but with the aim of changing the way we eat today, rather than the amount. Maybe tax the fatty foods so that I can buy a portion of meat, complementary vegetables and sauces etc for the same price as a Rustlers ()

[craigie b]

I agree with what your saying Babyyam...exactly at which point do we stop or indeed start infringing on peoples civil liberties?

I don't have the answer for that, however I know for one thing, if people don't take responsibility for their diets, everyone will feel its impact....

[craigie b]

[Skudd]

When I was young (7-11 yrs ) I was porky, i was doing all the sports but still porky, By the time I was 15 yrs I had a good six pack very energetic. i stayed like this for a good few years until work, wife and kids all became priorities. I'm now what you would call a real porker, 6'2" and 20 stone, But Im happy, I'm fairly active and don't go to the doctors hospital or need the NHS in anyway. I do get a bit out of breath going up stairs but not so that I won't use the stairs. I have two children, a boy who is 12yrs and a girl who is 9 years. They both get fed the same and they are both very active. My son is smaller in height than my daughter and could be seen as being undernourished, were as my daughter is very tall and could be seen as on the way to being obese. They have been treated the same but genetics have played their part. Yes we will awatch our daughters weight in the same way we will watch our sons weight. But genetics do play a big part in the size issue. Yes food does to and exercise, but it is the way your genetics work that has the main issue. It would be just as wrong to tax blacks or asians more because they have more blood disorders than most whites, it would be wrong to tax whites more because they tend to suffer heat stroke more than blacks. what is needed is for places to cater for the large and the small will fit, rather than the small so that the large don't fit. Many times when I was at my fittest ( I played waterpolo, swam everyday for two hours and could do 100m, in just under 1min) seats, chairs, changing rooms, cars etc were just too small. I'm just a bit tired of naturally thin people telling others how they should look, eat and what a burden they are because they are bigger. People who are very large do need help, but in the same way that someone who can't absorb sugar, glucose, salt needs help, or those who need insulin, dialysis, blood transfusions etc need help. Tax people for being too tall or being to short, tax the disabled, tax the able. tax people for being different.
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[killa]

[Johnny GSX-R]

I watched a programme this week about a 19yr old girl who is 32 stone, she can't lose weight because she has a problem with her feet.




























































She can't keep them out of the fucking kitchen!

[craigie b]

[colin1]

make the fatties pay extra taxes to cover the inevitable medical expenses

only the really fat ones though

smokers pay more tax, boozers pay more tax, so why not fatties ?
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