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PostPosted: 14:17 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Makeshift stands... wheel removal Reply with quote

Basically i have no centerstand (wouldnt fit with aftermarket pipes).

And i need to take off the front wheel for a fair bit of time so it can get swapped over with my new ones.

Oh and i need to swap a load of parts from one rear one to another.

These two things dont have to happen at the same time mind you.

Any advice on how to do this safely? I have a punchbag bracket mounted in my garage roof which im sure can support some weight, im taking off the fairing so i can probably tie around the yoke/ bars/ suspension etc, and round the pillion grab rail/ rear cowl for rear tyre.

Question is, are their any school boy errors i should avoid? How vital is it to torque up wheel nuts enough. What can (and probably will) go wrong.

First time removing wheels you see.

Oh and i've got new bearings to fit in, how the fuck do i get the old ones out? And do i need to add extra grease? They are the sealed bearing types that are pregreased inside.

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PostPosted: 15:37 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Re: Makeshift stands... wheel removal Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
I have a punchbag bracket mounted in my garage roof which im sure can support some weight, im taking off the fairing so i can probably tie around the yoke/ bars/ suspension etc, and round the pillion grab rail/ rear cowl for rear tyre.


You'll be fine doing that. Last time I had the front wheel off my bike, my very generous father lifted the front end of the bike whilst I simultaneously jammed a metal bar underneath the yoke and kicked two car ramps into place to rest the bar on. It sat quite happily like that with a rear paddock stand being the weakest link.


bonny_ricardo wrote:

how the fuck do i get the old ones out? And do i need to add extra grease? They are the sealed bearing types that are pregreased inside.


Getting the old ones out, easy (well... can be) either lever them out with a screwdriver (from the centre, not the wheel edge Wink ) or hammer them through - after all it doesn't matter if you damage them. I used a metal tube to give them enough of a whack to get them free last time.

Won't do any harm to add a bit of fresh grease Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bearings are pretty easy to get out. remove seals on the outside first, and make sure theres no clip or anything holding the bearing in.
Once you have done that, get a big screwdriver, or anything else suitable and knock the bearing spacer loose.
Once that is done then just just use your screwdriver/bar/whatever on the inside of the bearing, just gentle taps and keep moving it around so that the bearing comes out straight rather that just twatting it free on one side.
Once you have removed one side the other is a piece of piss.
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A good tip for fitting new ones is to keep the bearings in the freezer overnight, and warm the wheel up. Makes em much easier to get in. also you can grind the outside dia of the old bearing set down slightly with a dremel so they are a loose fit into the wheel, them use them to help press the new bearings in.
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always tap new bearings in by striking the outer race. If the bearings aren't too big, use a socket the same size as the outer race to allow you to knock them in evenly.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I had to remove my rear wheel, I put a tree stump under each side of the swingarm, held it fine for a weekend. I'd be a bit buggered getting the front wheel off though. Confused
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 26 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rookie wrote:
When I had to remove my rear wheel, I put a tree stump under each side of the swingarm, held it fine for a weekend. I'd be a bit buggered getting the front wheel off though. Confused


Indeed.

I just bought a couple of bungees and tie downs. Gonna just plonk its front wheel up ona piece of wood, take its clothes up, tie heavily to the ceiling bracket, remove the wood and see if it stays there.

Ive so far discovered indiscriminate smacking with a socket from the other side REALLY hurts your finger when you miss, but doesnt work for shit.

Also whats the crack with these 'grease seals'? I took one out and it had what looked like a severely mangled copper gasket in it. Do i need to replace that now, and if so where from? Are they standard or bike specific?

And what grease would you recommend for cheap goodness. I dont want to buy a massive one from halfrauds for a fiver. Will copper grease work as i already have that (stupid question i know).
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 27 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have crash bugs?

All i do is put some Big axel stands on the crash bungs and lift the bike onto them (need 2 people)



does me fine.
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 27 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remove footpegs by pulling the pins, turn upside-down and re-fit. Now put an axle-stand under each.

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PostPosted: 11:21 - 27 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get it strapped up. Wink Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 11:38 - 27 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call me retarded if you will, but what the fudge us an axle stand (and dont say a stand for axles Twisted Evil ).

Got some bungies and (pathetic looking) tie downs last night, so may attempt to see how strong that is. Or alternatively i have a spare rear wheel on a spindle that /might/ fit through at a pinch. As im taking the calipers off anyway.

That way its only got bare the weight a minute or two.

And i think the idea of blocks under the swing arm is better for the rear (AND tying of course).

Just going to see if the wheel will swap ok.
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 27 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm... Had a look and cant see how id do it annoyingly.

To just swap tyres over with wheels off is about a tenner.

To swap tyres over with front wheel still on bike is about 18.

And to swap tyres over with front wheel still on bike AND do bearings is looking at about 35+ so far.

I might ask my mate stu round, but then he wont go away and his style of fixing things is mildly terrifying to put it lightly. And considering how much i have to get done... Thinking

Nothings easy.
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 27 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Problem is its a rather heavy crotch rocket, so no good points to mount it on. Anyway ive bought a rear paddock stand now. So im just going to work out a way to prop/strap the front of the bike that wont destroy it.
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 28 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The old uni bike stand (ala bottle crate) is an unbelivably strong device, might be just the trick you need bonny.

Shove it in under the engine then rear paddock stands. Oh, paint tins is also a good one.
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PostPosted: 11:17 - 29 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I managed it yesterday (somewhat tenuously) by rolling bike up on some wood, then putting on paddock stand.
Then wedging a chair under both crash bungs, and tying the front subframe to the ceiling (mainly as insurance).

Hasnt moved at all so tyres done, now see the 'bastard wheel bearings wont move for shit thread' Very Happy Thumbs Up
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