restricted 600's?

[phill_sumner]

hi, ive got a gsxr400 which is doing my head in with carb problems etc and i was wanting to ask what a 600 sports bike (r6, gsxr600, cbr etc) is like restricted to 33bhp. I know it will obviously slow it down but how will it be compare to an unrestricted 400 such as my gsxr, cheers
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[Rookie]

From what I've heard, it's like riding a normal bike below 6 or 7k and then, when the powerband is supposed to hit, it just dies off, power-wise.

[Barker-CBR 600]

Had my CBR6 restricted. And generally i found it still kept up pretty well like rookie says then the difference kicks in about 8K on the revs.

Top speed obviously quite limited (around 120 indicated) but acceleration still such a huge leap up that i didnt find it boring. Not sure how it would compare to a 400, generally they are nimbler and a bit more pokey from what i seen.

I think they main thing to consider is after 2 years of restriction (or there abouts ) you effectivly get yourself a whole new experiance as the restrictors come out and you treble your power.
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[Gazdaman]

A restricted 600 will be both heavier, and down on power than a full power 400.

The 600 would be left for dead.

If you're going to castrate a 600, then why bother having a 600? It just doesn't make sense.

Gaz

[Rookie]

[Gazdaman]

A thundercat is sensible though. As was an XJ600. It's not the capacity I disagree with, it's the cost of such a 600, and the majority of that cost is to pay for the performance.

If you want to go down the "what about the handling??!!!!111" route. Then why not an RS125?

Restricting an R6 is pointless. It pretty much says to me that that person is a poser with too much money and would probably feel as at home in a saxo 2mm off the floor.

Gaz

[JonB]

I don't think a 400 would leave a restricted 600 for dead.

When my Bandit was restricted I was riding with a mate on a de-restricted CBR400 and I was in front of it all the way til 90.
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[phill_sumner]

just for peoples information, im not a poser, i have NO money and i dont drive a saxo 2mm off the ground i have a gsxr400 and only asked how it would compare to a restricted 600
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[Rookie]

[timjim]

I had a blat on a 600 bandit9restricted0 and up to 8500-9000 revs it behaved exactly the same as a standard 600..taking it higher the power dropped off like a rev limiter..it was s till good fun and if i had to tell the difference between the 2 bikes,then i woulk have been hard pressed.tim

[Gazdaman]

At santa pod I went up against a standard (looking) RVF400.

I'd been running all day, so I wasn't bad at it, I got a decent start, the run went well, but I still only beat him by a gnats bollock (0.01s).

Now he was down on power compared to me, (by a good 15-20bhp), but I'd say the lighter bike, and lighter rider combined with better aerodynamics came into play.

If my bandit was under half the power, I would have been completely obliterated.

Gaz

[phill_sumner]

cheers for all the replies the reason i ask is that im thinking of getting a 600 (im 19 with a gsxr400 which is unrestricted). If i got a 600 id restrict it and just didnt want to be dissapointed with the performance if i got one restricted. I heard 600's are more reliable as they arent screaming through the revs all the time as im sick of problems with the 400's ive had. The age of the bikes doesnt help (1991 models) and id like to get a newer 600 such as 2000 or 1999 or somthing, like an r6. I agree with people comments saying whats the point in getting a 600 and "castrating" it, but it would be more for reliability as well as the power.

phill
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[Timmeh]

If you want a restricted mid-range bike, get an SV650. V-Twins handle restriction better and it'll still have tons of torque at low revs.
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[phill_sumner]

just out of interest, if i did ride a 600 with no restrictions and got caught by police, what would actually happen? i heard 6 points if they find out, but if u get a producer i heard the restriction certificate doesnt need to be produced as it isnt a legal document.
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[edd]

[bladerunner]

The gsxr 400's all suffer from dodgy o-rings in the carbs that need replacing by now..after that they should be fine!! try getting some and see how you get on!

[phill_sumner]

cheers for the advice, the bike seems sorted now, ive got new o rings and set the float heights etc, new plugs and adjusted the mixture pilot screws, works a treat now, looks like i wont have to go down the more illegal route of a 600
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[JonB]

The illegal route.

Most people on 600's with restricted licences de-restrict them anyway.
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[JGY6000]

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[phill_sumner]

is there a lot of handling difference wit hthe 600's compared to the 400's? i know there bigger physically aswell but wondered if it was any harder to get used to
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[Timmeh]

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theres a couple of boys in the se one on a restricted kwak z750 '05 and the other on '89 cbr400 rr had a race, kwak was raped

cant see why you would restrict a 600, possibly the only logical reason is if you cant fit on a 400

rob
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[phill_sumner]

possibly because it would be illegal if i didnt....
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[St0rmer66]

[phill_sumner]

it just annoys me people whinging about restricting 600's when all i asked to start with was how it could compare to a 400. end of
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