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nsr 125 type r
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 20 Jul 2002    Post subject: newbie plz help !!! Reply with quote

hi,

i'm looking to get an nsr 125 as my first bike and i was wondering what its performance figures were ?

i currently am 17 years old and i drive my parents honda accord type R i would be looking for something quicker than that !

p.s - how do i get a license for the bike ?

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Dylan
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 20 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

NSR new uk model, derestricted should be 0-60mph in 6 seconds but top speed of only 100mph. If you wanted performance better than the car then get a 400cc bike. How can you afford insurance on that car!!??
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 20 Jul 2002    Post subject: Re: newbie plz help !!! Reply with quote

Firstly, how much money are you looking to spend (Including insurance tests etc.)?

A *deristricted* NSR will do 0-60 in around 6 secs and have a top speed of around 100. Once you get used to it you can corner pretty damn fast (not sure about comparisons with cars cornering though).

To ride a (restricted) 125 you have to do Compulsury Basic Training (CBT) which is a one day course costing £70-£90 including bike hire.
Doing the full test at 17 will involve a several day course, when you've passed you can ride any bike under or restricted to 33hp for the frist two years tehn you're allowed whatever power.

Needless to say the restrictors seem to be quite badly designed and often 'fall out' Wink
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TJ NSR
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 20 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

advice: skip the 125s and get a 400 restricted or bigger,

personally the 125 has been a nice expirience, but it is slow ans too small and its a 2 stroke, its not suitable really for everday use and requires looking afta, a 4 stroke is more durable and tend to last a lot longer...


anyway..

DONT GET AN IMPORT NSR they only top 85 - 90 mph, uk nsrs do about 100 - 105 mph and the restictions are easy to take out, unlike imports where they are know where they are exactly.

the nsr is probably the most reliable out of the trio (Mito, NSR, RS) and parts are easier to get hold of...

its not bad on acceleration, and handles *very* well!!

looks are getting dated and i find it to small for me and cramped, not good for long journeys and commuting (back and neck start to ache)

anyway i would personally recomment getting a restricted 400 eg zxr, rvf, cbr or vfr or others and ull get a little more power than the nsr and still have a big bike and get used to the feel of a bigger bike! or u can start on a 125 and get a 6 later!

licence: im guessing u got a driving licence... u need to do a CBT, then u can ride a 125 with L-plates and no pillions.. then u do a theory test... then a bike test, and u got a licence nearly... if ur under 21 u get a 33bhp restriced licence (for 2 yrs, then it opens up) and over 21 yrs old u can do a das and get an unlimited licence!!!!

hope this helped

TJ

welcome btw
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 20 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off, Welcome!

now...hmm...what exactly do you mean by "quicker than an Accord Type-R"?...if you're talking about top speed, then you will find that most (all?) bikes up to 400cc will not make more than the 145Mph of the Accord...but a well-ridden bike should beat one off the line...

As everyone says, if you have the time and the money, then do your test and get a (restricted) bigger bike...
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 20 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

17 and driving a accorg 2.0litre type r (which is injected) LIES!!!!!!there is no chance of you getting inshured on it as it is a group 14 car
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 20 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

if u dont believe me got get a quote from elephant.co.uk, and see for ure self, its under my dads name and i'm the 2nd driver, premium is £1912.

would i be able to learn on a 400cc ?

and i'm not really looking for practicality as i will still have access to the accord, and i'm willing to pay about 3k for everything if possible !

i'm not looking for top end performance, just of the lights type!

and is it possible to get an exhaust that sounds good on the nsr 125 ?

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PostPosted: 18:32 - 20 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

your 17, so you have to learn on a 125.
however, you could see if someone does a course do to CBT and A2 test in a week or something, then not bother buying a 125 and buy your 400.

you will have a problem with insurance tho, a sporty 400 at 17 with no no claims will set you back at least a grand, and you want to be spending minimum of 2 grand on a bike of that class.

for just off the lights performance an NSR 125 will beat any car deresrticted, but you will get pissed off with the low top speed of the car and annoying power - it all starts at about 7000 rpm.

NSR will always sound silly because it is a high revving 2 stroke single.

so, either do your test with a training place. find one in the yellow pages, get a 400cc
or get an NSR, do your test normally, derestrict, stick with it.
or secret option no. 3. do your test, get something like a 250 with low insurance, wait a couple of years and then get superbike.
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 20 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

so where can i get online bike insurance quotes from?

and i'm used to high end power, type r's vtec kicks in at 5800, and revs all the way to 9 !!!

so how much would it cost to learn on 400cc, in order for me to ride a 400 ?

and i thought i wasn't allowed to ride anything other than a 125cc untill 2 years of expeirence ???

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PostPosted: 18:48 - 20 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and i'm used to high end power, type r's vtec kicks in at 5800, and revs all the way to 9 !!!


Laughing

My RVF power kicks in at about 7000, and revs all the way to 14,000!

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PostPosted: 18:57 - 20 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

what robby said

what I'd do is get a cheap 125 (around the £1000 mark should get you a decent enough rk model, it won't look as snazzy as the new uns but should still go as quick) Ride it for a while, preferably regularly riding to 'test standard'. Then sell it and get a bigger bike... you shouldn't lose as much on a cheapish bike as well.
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TJ NSR
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 21 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

btw online insurance quotes are shite, there never accurate and always tooo much,

its better picking up the phone and getting a quote, dont be lazy
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 21 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

You CANT learn on a 400. You have to learn on a 125. Then pass ur a2 Light-access licence. That entitles you to ride any size bike restricted to 33bhp. 400's are ideal cuz you could sometimes get away with blagging the restriction. Anything bigger and the fuzzies would get suspicious.
You're probably looking at at least £300 to get you to test. Maybe more.
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 21 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

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btw online insurance quotes are shite, there never accurate and always tooo much


Mine was £50 cheaper on the Net

i recomend https://www.mitch.co.uk/mitch/motorcycle.htm

I pay £300 TPFT 1 yars ncb on a 125

only £600 for a zxr6!!! Wink
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 22 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had 2 2 hour lessons at £40 each, cant remember how much test cost, but only about £120 in total.
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