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blacky
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 22 Apr 2007    Post subject: I'm 17! I want to ride a big bike, around 400cc/600cc Reply with quote

Hey i found this paragraph on another site, however it didn't tel me how to go around applying for everything. Can i apply for these tests online?
"I want to ride a big bike, around 600cc, but I'm not 21 years old yet. Is there anything I can do?

Yes! If you are between 17 and 20 years old you can take the restricted licence route. You will need to start with a licence showing provisional Category A, then you need to pass the Motorcycle theory test, complete Compulsory Basic Training, then go on to pass your Practical Motorcycle test on a 125cc machine. Once you have passed, you will have a full category A2 (restricted) licence, which entitles you to ride any SIZE motorcycle, provided it does not produce more than 33bhp, or 25kw. Many larger motorcycles can be restricted to this power limit, and the good news is that once you have held a full A2 licence for 2 years,(regardless of your age) it automatically becomes a full, unrestricted (A) licence and you can ride any motorcycle you fancy"



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PostPosted: 12:34 - 22 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://pt.dsa.gov.uk/tests/tests_E/tt/data_processing.asp#
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 22 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks mate Smile

I'm new to this, how does the provisional work? Obviously you cant have anyone sitting beside you.

Correct me if I'm wrong

1 Apply for provisional
2 Take theory
3 Complete CBT
4 lastly Motorcycle test on a 125cc machine (what does this intale?)
can someone confirm that this will allow me to ride 400-600cc bikes? (dont wana get my hopes up)
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 22 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im just coming up 17 and in the sme position as you.

You will be able to ride those capacity bikes but you will have to restrict the power output to 33bhp. i am pretty sure this is done with spacers in the carb and you should be able to get it done at a local dealer. The only thing i would say about going for bigger bikes especially sport/race style ones is the cost of insurance which can be a hell of a lot at 17.

I have got a 125 to ride round with L plates on and you can do this as soon as you have done your CBT and as long as the bike is less than 125cc, less than 14.6bhp and has L plates you can do this without anyone with you. To get onto the bigger bikes though you need to do the test. However riding round on a 125 for a while will get you some experience and make passing the test a lot easier when you come to do it.

Also you dont need a theory test for the CBT so you can be riding the 125 without having done the theory test.

Hope this helps

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PostPosted: 13:41 - 22 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its as crazy as it sounds, you can take the CBT and as long as your insured your unleashed on the roads with l plates and about 14 ponies to play with.

I believe that although the machine is limited to 33bhp, the insurance company will still view it as the same premium for a full power machine. Also the bigger and heavier the machine you go up the less use it will make of its paltry 33bhp.

There should be a motorcycle school somewhere near you, get down to them and see what kind of offers they have. In my day (bout 4 years ago) the CBT was about a hundred sheets and the thoery around the 20 quid mark. The CBT is quite an enjoyable day and it was my first time on a bike. They will probably have you out on the roads by the afternoon, they ride behind you and communicate with an intercom.

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PostPosted: 14:34 - 22 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read the stickys at the top of this forum Shocked
Should help you a bit....
Other than that yellow pages or a visit to a local bike shop will give you details of local bike training...
The best place to start.
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 22 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

andymarks wrote:
Im just coming up 17 and in the sme position as you.

You will be able to ride those capacity bikes but you will have to restrict the power output to 33bhp. i am pretty sure this is done with spacers in the carb and you should be able to get it done at a local dealer. The only thing i would say about going for bigger bikes especially sport/race style ones is the cost of insurance which can be a hell of a lot at 17.

I have got a 125 to ride round with L plates on and you can do this as soon as you have done your CBT and as long as the bike is less than 125cc, less than 14.6bhp and has L plates you can do this without anyone with you. To get onto the bigger bikes though you need to do the test. However riding round on a 125 for a while will get you some experience and make passing the test a lot easier when you come to do it.

Also you dont need a theory test for the CBT so you can be riding the 125 without having done the theory test.

Hope this helps

Andy

Ah so you do the CBT first? To be honest, I've played about with a 125 on private grounds, and it just isn't as powerful as i would like, the bike will be used for quite long journeys (2hr travel, 5 days a week) but yea, i suppose getting one to prepare for the real test would be good. How much is insurance on a 125? I find it insaley hard to see why you dont have to sit a theory test?!
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 22 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrow apply for provisional
Arrow complete CBT
Arrow Take theory
Arrow Do test on 125 which means you arrive at the test center on a 125 which is roadworthy and proceed to take your test once you pass(IF you pass) you will then be *legally* restricted to 33BHP for two full years, after which you can legally ride any size machine you see fit.
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 22 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am 16 and i have got a dt50mx, does this geared bike help me much with my test next year when i hope to get a 125?
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 22 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

it will help you far more than a twist and go ever will, I started on a 'sit and screw' and wished Id got a geared back then instead of late last year Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 22 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:
Arrow apply for provisional
Arrow complete CBT
Arrow Take theory
Arrow Do test on 125 which means you arrive at the test center on a 125 which is roadworthy and proceed to take your test once you pass(IF you pass) you will then be *legally* restricted to 33BHP for two full years, after which you can legally ride any size machine you see fit.

Now that's the reply i was after, thanks for that Wink
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 22 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys, been looking around the web and i cant find a straight answer. If you have UK driving licence (car) do you need to apply for a provisional? or can i just apply for the CBT?
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 22 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generally you don't need to apply, no.

It'll say on your licence somewhere what provisional categories you have on your licence. If A is one, then you're fine. It's on your paper counterpart if you've got a new style licence.
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 22 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you got your car license before February 2001, you can:

Arrow ride a moped up to 50cc Without L plates
or just:
Arrow ride up to a 125cc On L plates(take a CBT for this)
Arrow take your bike test, and ride anything.(after CBT then test, or DAS)
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PostPosted: 08:10 - 23 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

carvell wrote:
Generally you don't need to apply, no.

It'll say on your licence somewhere what provisional categories you have on your licence. If A is one, then you're fine. It's on your paper counterpart if you've got a new style licence.

Sound mate Smile I've got Categories A, BE and GH. Do you need to bring your own jacket, gloves helmet to the CBT?
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PostPosted: 08:18 - 23 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

theyre usually provided but its nice to wear your own stuff in my opinion as it just saves alot of hassle.
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PostPosted: 08:26 - 23 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

They give you helmet and gloves but my place didnt give me anything else, id suggest your own as it will be a better fit and you wont need to think about how many people have worn the helmet before Razz
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 23 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair point! eBay here i come Wink
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 23 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say your nearest bike shop... Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 11 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fit of a bike helmet is extremely important, so please do not buy one online without first having tried it on. If it's been dropped, even lightly, it should no longer be used, so buy new. You might want to consider a new Nitro or similar; they're fairly cheap.

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Fair point! eBay here i come Wink
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 11 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

spring3r wrote:
The fit of a bike helmet is extremely important, so please do not buy one online without first having tried it on. If it's been dropped, even lightly, it should no longer be used, so buy new. You might want to consider a new Nitro or similar; they're fairly cheap.

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Fair point! eBay here i come Wink



Buy the best you can afford, personally I wouldn't touch Nitro with a 10 foot pole. The shops buy them in at around £20! Shocked

Buy the best you can afford. My first one was a reduced to clear shark 100 from 200 so look around and try to find a bargain.
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PostPosted: 00:49 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey yes i am in the same position as you aswell turning 17 in august . . as for insurance its not reeli tht bad . bennetts qouted me 500 tpo but want tht much more TPFT . . so u should try bennets and btw thts with 0 NCBthanks.kaz
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should always go TPFT as a minimum - Might be a few extra £s but cheaper than replacing your bike.

The best way to look at it is simple, if the cost of replacing your bike is going to be less than a/ the excess of the policy and b/ the additional cost of TPFT over TP then stick with TP - If however replacing your bike would cost more then go for TPFT.
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