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Alexxx
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 24 Apr 2007    Post subject: Derestricting my moped Reply with quote

Hey I would like to know of the ways i can derestrict my moped, I've looked all around the internet but I can't find anything useful for my particular moped (maybe I haven't looked hard enough but thats besides the point)

I have a peugeot fox from either 1994 or 1996 (can't tell when) and I would expect that not many of you would have heard of it as it is imported from germany

The top speed i can get from it is around 35mph and I was wondering if anybody would know how I could make it go any faster as I am getting a little tired of getting overtaken all the time, even by fellow bikers

I appreciate any of your help or comments and sorry if its in the wrong forum thing, this is my first post and also sorry if my spelling or grammar isnt that good either haha I was never any good at english

but yeh anyways, any help would be appreciated so thanks
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 24 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

theres another identical post to this somewhere else, a peugeot mechanic replied, have a search
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Alexxx
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 24 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah right k, il av a look cheers
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 24 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moped restriction is usually very simple. The normal method is a small diameter tube inside the exhaust that restricts the flow of gas, hence restricting the power. This can be dealt with by either A) removing the exhaust and drilling out the tube, or B) getting a new exhaust system. A new exhaust can be picked up for around £60 so its hardly breaking the bank.
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Alexxx
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 24 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

how would i remove the exhaust and drill out the tube

sorry if thats a stupid question, I've only been riding for a few months which makes me a newbie so yeh
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 24 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normally there's 2 bolts holding it onto the cylinder with another bolt holding it to a hanger on the back of the bike. There should be an illustration in your manual showing you how to take it all off.
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Alexxx
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 24 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK cool thanks!

I'll take a look at it tomorow nd see what I can do, cheers for the help

and also, would drilling a hole in it make it louder? or decrease its reliability? or cause longterm damage to the engine in the future? or anything like that?

cheers

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PostPosted: 22:59 - 24 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would make it louder and could possibly make the engine run a bit lean. They wouldnt really be an issue though as ped engines are virtually bombproof.

Word of advice though, take it to a garage and get the cutting out problem sorted first before you start messing with the exhaust. While you're there you can ask them about de-restricting it lol
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Alexxx
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 24 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

lmao i just realised iv bin talkin to the same dude in different posts! :P

but yeh dat aint a bad idea, I might give that a try (if i can convince my dad to let me derestrict it whcih shouldnt be too hard :p)

hes all worried bout the dangers of bikes nd all that

so yeh

cheers for all your help

Alexxx
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 24 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

the way I got round that one was by saying;

'look, would you rather me be 100% legal and be put in danger everytime I go out by people overtaking me in stupid places or for me to be slightly illegal but be way safer as I'll be able to keep up with the flow of traffic and wont have people overtaking all the time?''

worked like a charm Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 00:56 - 25 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im guessing this scooter is a 2 stroke.
If so, DO NOT Drill any holes in your exhaust. 2t engines rely on exhaust back pressure and an expansion chamber to run correctly. Drilling a hole in the pipe will mess with the pressure balance and you will loose all the power.


Majority of 50ccs are restricted on the exhaust pipe. 9/10 on a stock pipe, there will be a blank hose coming off the pipe, which is crimped off at the end. It leads to nowhere. This basically "hogs" all the back pressure and de-tunes the engine.

The other restriction is usually in the variator, It basically stops the scooter from reaching its higher "Gears". thus restricting you to 30mph.


De-restriction is about £60 at a shop. if you cant take your exhaust off, then im pretty certain your not going to be able to remove the blank pipe and weld it up.
Not split the variator.


Take it to a workshop mate. Its your best bet.
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Alexxx
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 25 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK then, guess il take it to the workshop

but would the workshop do it? knowing that itd be illegal to derestrict it, or would they not give a monkeys arse and do it anyways coz im payin em lol

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PostPosted: 20:46 - 25 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It varies between places mate. When I had mine done my dad had to sign a disclaimer saying that it was being done for him, I would be riding the vehicle and that we basically can't sue the dealer if we get caught.
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 26 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never got my ped derestricted and it was awful. I had enough power to get to 30 quickly but after that it was terrible. Cars doing stupid things everywhere.

Id take it a dealer to be derestricted then they could make sure its running perfectly etc
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Alexxx
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 27 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok i looked in ma ped and i cleanded out the air filter (or what i thought woz the air filter) and i noticed that there woz two holes for the air to go in, if i drilled this would it do anything?

i also looked at the exhaust and it looked like it was just a massive expansion chamber, i dont think there is a washer but i dont know

cheers ma dears for any help (again)

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PostPosted: 08:04 - 28 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The easiest way is "TO BUY A BIGGER BIKE WHEN YOU ARE OLD ENOUGH", the law is there for a reason, dont mean its right, but if you do de-restrict it your insurance will be invalid!
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 28 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Odie wrote:
The easiest way is "TO BUY A BIGGER BIKE WHEN YOU ARE OLD ENOUGH", the law is there for a reason, dont mean its right, but if you do de-restrict it your insurance will be invalid!


Its all well and good saying that but it depends what you use the ped for. When I was 16 I was going to college, 15 miles away. Restricted it would take 45 mins to get there, and was FAR more dangerous. Technically it does invalidate your insurance, but i had my ped written off they didnt bat an eyelid. You can fit a new exhaust which usually come with a cone restrictor inside the pipe, the stock ones rust through anyway. The insurance man isnt going to start looking inside your exhaust and taking the variator to bits.

The variator you can do yourself, easy job. The exhaust can be replaced with an expansion chamber type, or you could take the bike to a backsteet garage and get them to chop the expansion pipe off and weld it up in situ.

there is a guide for an italjet dragster here https://www.italjetdragster.com/unleash.html The principle is the same for yours it will just look a bit different. If you remove the variator washer you should see the most gain in speed. A backstreet garage should charge ~ £5 for the welding.
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Alexxx
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 28 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeh I take mine to my girlfriends a lot (about 13 miles) and on the way there are a few main roads where it does get quite dangerous with lorries overtaking me, I also make a lot of traffic which can't really be good

so I have decided to convince my parents to take it to a garage and see what they can do like fitting a race exhaust or something like that

and if that fails then I will have a go at doing it myself
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 28 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

edd wrote:
Odie wrote:
The easiest way is "TO BUY A BIGGER BIKE WHEN YOU ARE OLD ENOUGH", the law is there for a reason, dont mean its right, but if you do de-restrict it your insurance will be invalid!


Its all well and good saying that but it depends what you use the ped for.


So you are advising some-one to break the law, to ride with-out insurance, well what a nice person you are.
The law says that at 16 the only size of bike you can ride on the road is 50cc, it also says that it must not have a design speed of more than 30mph, THATS THE LAW, its all well and good saying my 50cc scooter / moped etc will do 50mph straight out of the crate, the max speed for a 50 cc machine on the road is 30mph.
Wait and get a bigger bike is my advice, also if you do start to piss about with it they do have a habit of becoming unreliable, then your be back on here saying "my bike dont run properly" etc.
I know its no fun being stuck at 30 mph with loads of traffic barring down on you, but you did it on a push bike probably, learn to live with it, wait until your older (17) and get some-thing bigger then, dont loose your licence over some-thing as stupid as being impatience.
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is derestricting mopeds the same with all mopeds.


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PostPosted: 16:06 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

over the last 14yrs i've had loads of bikes ar80 + 125's 350's 400's 600's but last yr i got a cheap 50 that did 30-35mph i de-restricted it one night at mates garage and i was used to the slow acceleration up to 30... but on the ride home it made me s*it myself (not literally) it got to 0-60-65 in the same time as 0-30 before..
so if you do de-restrict it becarfull
wouldn't want you (or anyone) to become a statistic..
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