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eddclarke
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 07 May 2007    Post subject: to hornet or not Reply with quote

Hey, Ive been riding my XR125 for almost a year now and have got my test booked, and i want to get a Honda Hornet 600, but have a few questions,
Can i get one for about £1800-2000?
What are they like for fuel consumption?
What are they like for a first big bike?
Any thing i should watch out when buying one?
Oh and what are they like for insurance?

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PostPosted: 22:05 - 07 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres one in the honda dealership, armstrongs? on linthorpe road

Gimme a text if you dont know where it is il hapily show youu

Think its about 1800 too

Whens your test booked for?
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Re: to hornet or not Reply with quote

eddclarke wrote:

Can i get one for about £1800-2000?

Yes that should get you a decent 1999-2001 model

eddclarke wrote:

What are they like for fuel consumption?

Not bad, but the tank only holds 16 litres so expect as little as little as 100 miles between tanks. The tank became 17 litres in 2000 so around 120 miles.

eddclarke wrote:

What are they like for a first big bike?

Great bikes, the ones with a 16 inch front can feel a little vague( it got a 17 incher in 2000 and better brakes) They have lots of torque for a 600 and a surprising top end rush.

eddclarke wrote:

Any thing i should watch out when buying one?


Trade mark Honda really, pretty much bomb proof, but check for a rattle from cold that goes away once it's warm, that's the cam chain tensioner sticking. A new one is around £50 + fitting, it's about a 15 minute job if you're handy with the spanners. Reg/Rec's can also go. Check if it's an ex Hornet cup bike, very few made it to the road, but best to be on the safe side. Look for lock wiring and aftermarket stronger engine covers.

Huggers and fenda extenda's are the only worth while mods, o and braided lines.

eddclarke wrote:

Oh and what are they like for insurance?


I'm paying £448 a year, 18 y/o, 1 NCB, no security device TPFT. My dad pays £250ish, 47 y/o, 0 NCB, no security devices, 0 year riding experience, fully comp.
eddclarke wrote:

Thanks


Your welcome
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Re: to hornet or not Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
the tank only holds 16 litres so expect as little as little as 100 miles between tanks. The tank became 17 litres in 2000 so around 120 miles.


I thought the tank got bigger (17 litres) in 2003 with the facelift. Have to agree with everything you said though. They make great first big bikes. I bought mine as my first ever bike and I have been exceptionally pleased with it.

I have the semi faired version. It keeps most of the wind off and you can cruise easily at 130mph although your license might not last that long at those speeds.

Everything I have read suggests that the suspension is rather soft and tends to go 'off' around 20,000 miles but I have nothing to compare that to really so I can't comment. hagon replacement shock is aroung £250 if it needs it.

It will hit ludicrous speed if you need it to and provides quite a lot of feedback while riding though i am certain it will bite you if you push it too hard. Better riders than me seem to be able to use it more to its capabilities so it will get better as you do. You won't immediately find yourself wanting to upgrade.

Hope I was helpful.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

grp12 ,
handle ok better with 17 inch front,
fast , very its essentially a naked CBR6 , retuned for mid range,
very revvy
cheap to drop ,

tichy tank AND thirsty engine, when Frog had one he always had to stop for fuel while me and Joe would still only be 40% through our tanks.

not as bad as say a firestorm though those had tiny 14 litre tanks and an incredibly thirsty engine.
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Re: to hornet or not Reply with quote

Mjolnir wrote:
Big_Ham wrote:
the tank only holds 16 litres so expect as little as little as 100 miles between tanks. The tank became 17 litres in 2000 so around 120 miles.


I thought the tank got bigger (17 litres) in 2003 with the facelift. Have to agree with everything you said though. They make great first big bikes. I bought mine as my first ever bike and I have been exceptionally pleased with it.

I have the semi faired version. It keeps most of the wind off and you can cruise easily at 130mph although your license might not last that long at those speeds.

Everything I have read suggests that the suspension is rather soft and tends to go 'off' around 20,000 miles but I have nothing to compare that to really so I can't comment. hagon replacement shock is aroung £250 if it needs it.

It will hit ludicrous speed if you need it to and provides quite a lot of feedback while riding though i am certain it will bite you if you push it too hard. Better riders than me seem to be able to use it more to its capabilities so it will get better as you do. You won't immediately find yourself wanting to upgrade.

Hope I was helpful.


Deffo went up in the year 2000, also got better brakes with a rigid pass over between the left and right calipers and better sintered pads.
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Mjolnir
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just checked HondaHornet.co.uk to make sure. Your absolutely right about the brakes, they were improved as well as the 16" tyre becoming 17" but the tank was still 16 until the 2003 version came out.

Said so here:
https://www.hondahornet.co.uk/600spec.html

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2003

With just minimal changes to the Hornet since 2000 Honda finally got their thinking caps on and gave theri designers the go ahead to start re-styling the Hornet for 2003. The launch of the 900 in 2001/2, with its sleeker more angular styling, had already got heads turning. This coupled with complaints of the 600's relatively small petrol tank and a few other gripes, they got to work.

The results were good...

Firstly, they updated the styling. A reshaped and larger capacity tank (now 17 litres instead of 16). A sharp upswept tail unit flanked by an updated exhaust featuring hex-bolt end detailing.


Not trying to be petty or anything. I can only get 100 miles before reserve on my 2001.

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Wafer_Thin_Ham
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 08 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mjolnir wrote:
Just checked HondaHornet.co.uk to make sure. Your absolutely right about the brakes, they were improved as well as the 16" tyre becoming 17" but the tank was still 16 until the 2003 version came out.


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Yeah, just checked the Haynes Manual, you're right. I tend to get about 100 miles until reserve(normal riding), if you hammer it you will struggle to get 100 miles though.
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 09 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my DAS course and test on a Hornet 600. Nice bike, if a little powerful for a school bike. Made me want one, but I just bought an R6 Very Happy
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 09 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dead easy to ride. A good first "big" bike Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 09 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The '99 and '98 bikes like to flap the bars more than the 2000+ bikes because of the 16 inch front, so get a 2000 onwards if you can.
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 09 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
retuned for mid range


Is it just me or does this phrase strike fear into the heart of anyone else?
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 09 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
Itchy wrote:
retuned for mid range


Is it just me or does this phrase strike fear into the heart of anyone else?


lol it's actually pretty true with the Hornet though.
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 09 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I have a '98 Hornet and it was my first ever bike. I went from non-biker to 125 & cbt, to 500 DAS bike then direct to Hornet - All within a month. As a first bike, I can't fault it (even with its 16" front wheel). I've owned it for around 3 yrs now and it's never really missed a beat, I haven't got bored with it and find more than quick enough. Took it for a trackday and found it more than capable - (much more than me! Embarassed ).

As already mentioned tank is poor at 16ltr but I have managed to scrape 105 miles before hitting reserve.

I'm knocking on the door of 40yrs young and have just paid £150.00 for Fully Comp' with protected no claims (3 yrs).

If you go for one, I'm pretty sure you won't be disappointed!

Hope it helps.

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PostPosted: 18:30 - 09 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the 16 inch front debate has a lot to do with your riding style, some people find them twitchy and untrsutworth in the corners, I don't, but as I've said I find they like shaking their head under spirited riding.
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 11 May 2007    Post subject: Re: to hornet or not Reply with quote

I have a 2006 Hornet 600 and am very pleased with it. The Hornet is a great first bike (I bought mine following DAS). The Hornet uses a detuned CBR600 engine with improved mid range and hence is easy to live with but great fun. The Hornet is light and easy to throw around. Older examples easily fit your budget. Insurance - 30 years old, male, 0 years NCB, alarm, Almax, Motrax Vishas, £180 PA. Sadly the fuel economy is appauling (approx. 35 mpg) but don't let that put you off...


eddclarke wrote:
Hey, Ive been riding my XR125 for almost a year now and have got my test booked, and i want to get a Honda Hornet 600, but have a few questions,
Can i get one for about £1800-2000?
What are they like for fuel consumption?
What are they like for a first big bike?
Any thing i should watch out when buying one?
Oh and what are they like for insurance?

Thanks
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 17 May 2007    Post subject: Re: to hornet or not Reply with quote

spring3r wrote:
I have a 2006 Hornet 600 and am very pleased with it. The Hornet is a great first bike (I bought mine following DAS). The Hornet uses a detuned CBR600 engine with improved mid range and hence is easy to live with but great fun. The Hornet is light and easy to throw around. Older examples easily fit your budget. Insurance - 30 years old, male, 0 years NCB, alarm, Almax, Motrax Vishas, £180 PA. Sadly the fuel economy is appauling (approx. 35 mpg) but don't let that put you off...


Agreed, I also have an 06 (on an 07) which I picked up the day after my test Smile Very good bike, does need to go to the fuel pump rather often though..... later models have a fuel gauge which is handy!

Spring3r, is that TPFT or fully comp, who's that with? Mine is due for renewal on Saturday (I'm 29, male, 1 years NCB, Almax and ground anchor), renewal is coming in £206 TPFT.
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 17 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always had a soft spot for the hornets and would love one. Recently though was reading a bike magazine, maybe SuperBike, and they had a section about the Hornet. It said some pretty good stuff about it but also said that it uses up fuel pretty quickly and wouldn't be the most economical bike to run Neutral
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PostPosted: 07:03 - 18 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

heh Nicky , its a bike very popular for ladies who play for their own team,
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 18 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
heh Nicky , its a bike very popular for ladies who play for their own team,


What ya basing that on Itchy Wink
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