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Ted
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: The 33bhp test? Reply with quote

I would do a few more searches... but as I can't remember what the test is called its a bit difficult to search for it!

Its not the DAS test, but the other one, the one that allows the rider to use up to a 33bhp bike...

So my questions are:
-what is the test called?
-will I be restricted to 33bhp for 1 or 2 years?
-is there much difference between this test and the DAS test?
-how much is it likely to cost?


I think thats all the questions I need for now! Cheers people...
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

-what is the test called? A1 test
-will I be restricted to 33bhp for 1 or 2 years? 2 years
-is there much difference between this test and the DAS test? yes, Das consists of cbt, theory lessons, then test.
The 33bhp test you do on a 125. (after a theory and some lessons)
-how much is it likely to cost? not sure, roughly, 19 for the theory, lessons vary between tutor and the test, is 50odd but i could be wrong.


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PostPosted: 22:22 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

the test is either the a1 or a2 i cant fully remember, first of all how old are you if your 21 then there is no need to do this test you can do the das, if your not then you will be restricted for 2 years unless your 21 before you end your restriction then you can take an accelerator test to get you onto the bigger bikes, the main difference in this test is you will be on a 125cc motorcycle rather than the 500cc and some of the manovers are easier on the 125 thats about it if im right, it will cost between 3-450 so not cheap but well worth, this also depends on how many lessons u need and if you have already done the theory or not. hope this helps you.
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, the test is called the A2 test.
the A1 test just means you can ride a 125 with a pillion and without L plates.

with an A2 you are 33bhp restricted for 2 years.
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers mate, thats what I was after!

Just checking... the DAS enables you to ride any size bike?

I'm 20 next month, is it worth waiting a year until I'm 21 and can do the DAS?

Also, I heard a rumor that with the A1 test, the restriction to 33bhp lasts 2 years OR until you turn 21, is this right?
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

did ya read my post matey, Laughing Laughing if your 20 and then reach 21 then you can take an accelerator course to jump your liecence up to the full one, is it worth it is totally up to you but if you dont do it before 2008 then new laws are coming in to place which make it much harder to get to a bigger bike
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

many people if you read are on the A2 but dont bother with the restriction.
both the A2 and DAS allow you to ride with any size bike, the only difference is the A2 must be restricted to 33bhp

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Also, I heard a rumor that with the A1 test, the restriction to 33bhp lasts 2 years OR until you turn 21, is this right?


the A1 is a completely different qualification. you are still stuck to 125's on that.
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant with the A2 test then... Wink

So I am restricted to 33bhp for 2 years, irrelivent (sp?) of age?
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

fzr_400 wrote:
did ya read my post matey, Laughing Laughing


...yeah... sorry but my comp is being really slow... I blame orage broadband... So it takes ages for my replies to be posted!
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

another question to ask is what sort of bike are you thinking of riding??? if anything above 400 then the das is best option, as said before you can ride what you like but by law are supposed to have restrictors in it, wheather you do or not is your choice but most people get away with it as long as your not doing above 100mph lol.
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes on an A2 license it is 33bhp for two years. If you become 21 within the two years you can take an accelerated test to ride any bike.

I'd suggest getting your test done before the new laws come in, even if it is an A2 license.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i knew i was right about the accelerated licence thing lol have you done any parts of the liecence i.e cbt or theroy??
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was looking to get a 250cc for a while, I just want to be able to get to 60mph a bit quicker than on the 125cc I have!

Although I am looking at old Royal Enfield 350s...

So really, I don't want anything as big as a 400!


Sounds like the A2 is the one for me then... and i'll either do the accelerated test when I turn 21 or stay on the restiction depending how I feel at the time!

Cheers guys!
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Done CBT, got a 125 at the moment. But it expires in Feb I think, so I want to do a test before it expires, otherwise I have to do a CBT and a test, right?

Haven't done the theory yet, will probably book it soon, as long as it is similar to the car one I don't think I'll have a problem with it...
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

well then seems your looking at older bikes which wont really have more than 33hp so you aint got much to worry about there, with regard to the theroy it is simalar to the car in the layout but most of the questions are bike orintated, i would suggest getting the book or the dvd, get this whole thing booked and done asap as with the better weather coming and these new laws coming out it will be harder to get a place as they will be booked up, good luck with whatever you do and keep us posted
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 22 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

steveh wrote:
-what is the test called? A1 test
-will I be restricted to 33bhp for 1 or 2 years? 2 years
-is there much difference between this test and the DAS test? yes, Das consists of cbt, theory lessons, then test.
The 33bhp test you do on a 125. (after a theory and some lessons)
-how much is it likely to cost? not sure, roughly, 19 for the theory, lessons vary between tutor and the test, is 50odd but i could be wrong.


Steve.


Hmmmm. 2/4 Steve, have you been paying attention at all boy? See me after class......... Wink

The correct answers are:

Arrow A2
Arrow 2 years
Arrow Only the size of bike you take the test on
Arrow Agreed, variable depending on how many lessons (if any) you need and if you use your own bike or a riding school's.
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PostPosted: 05:43 - 23 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Standard Bike Test. Category A2 bike test

This is the standard bike test where you undergo training on a 125 geared bike, once you have passed the A2 test you can ride (almost) any bike you like but it must be restricted to 33bhp

Price: from £599
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PostPosted: 08:00 - 23 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jadc wrote:
Standard Bike Test. Category A2 bike test

This is the standard bike test where you undergo training on a 125 geared bike, once you have passed the A2 test you can ride (almost) any bike you like but it must be restricted to 33bhp

Price: from £599


Not almost, it's any bike - It just has to be restricted to 33bhp.

Test (A1/A2/A) - £60
Theory - £21.50 (But increases from 3rd Sept 2007 to £28.50)

DAS Course - £300 - £500
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 23 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I swear i jus said restricted to 33bhp in my post Razz
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 23 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jadc wrote:
I swear i jus said restricted to 33bhp in my post Razz

I was being a pedantic git and referring the to the 'almost' bit - Sorry.
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 23 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

tis cool Smile
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 25 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more question... are the training/test companies likley to let me use a bike with no speedo?
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 25 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

the bike used needs to be MOT'd, and, correct me if im wrong, but if it doesnt have clocks then it wouldnt pass an MOT.
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 25 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

In that case i'll have to correct you! Very Happy

telling your speed is NOT an MoT issue... however speeding is a police issue... it is therefore reccomended that you have a speedo.

And its just passed it MoT anyway...
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 26 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seeing as you have CBT and have a bike already, I reckon you would be better off applying for your theory and your test yourself and perhaps just booking a couple of 1 hour lessons with an independant instructor just before the test.

It about 11 years or so since I took my test but I took my CBT then rode my 125 for 9 months and put myself in for my test. A local female instructor took me out for 2 lessons £12 an hour and just pointed out my bad habits that I had picked up.

I was over 21 when I took my test but still opted for the 33bhp restriction, cos I only wanted a 250cc after that. About 6 months before my restriction was due to expire I bought an XV750 and just figured I would tell the police that I thought it had been restricted, luckily I never got pulled.

If you do miss out the training companies and the pricey courses then least you will be able to spend a few quid on a DAS course at a later date if that is what you decide you want.
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