Reflective number plates....

[Blunet600]

Anybody got one, or know if they are worth the money and risk.
What is the penalty for getting caught with one?
I saw some at a bike show, they looked completely normal, but when they are flashed they are 100% reflective, couldnt see a thing. Was rather impressed, but they were £30.
Whats everyone elses views.

[niceguyeduard...]

sounds like a tempting idea. I thought they looked slightly different, which would be the risk. i.e getting pulled and copper noticing you have dodgy plates. If they look normal as you said then even you got pulled over the copper would never know, right? Could you not tell then that they were reflective? Might get some if so.

[biglinds]

Hi, thought I'd let you into a couple of points in relation to these plates and associated sprays and film coatings.

The polis are wise to them, and now have image intensifiers for reading plates regardless of their make up, so bad news if you speed through camera sites.

and
any registration plate MUST display the Bs145au marking which indicates it is reflex reflective (standard), and should also have the postcode from the original issuing garage/dealer.

The polis have experts in this field who are on the go 24/7, and if there is a doubt about your plates, guess what, they will hang on to you and get the expert out to look. The avoidance of identification/ tax avoidance and the like is a real 'hot potato' just now!
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[sickpup]

[flat spot]

Doesn't matter if they're reflective, they just look at the negative. The numbers are as clear as day.

[biglinds]

The VERA 95

Vehicle Registration and Licensing Act, 1995 - from memory
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[carvell]

[biglinds]

Carvell,

thanks for that
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[T.C]

There is also the consideration that if someone is having a really bad day, they will arrest you for attempting to pervert the course of justice which carries a prison sentence.

I know of two who got custodials for this very thing, and the supplying dealer leaves himself open for prosecution for the offence of aid and abet.

In any case, these reflective plates can be read with specialist eqiupment

However!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vehicles registered prior to October 1972 are allowed to use the white on black plates, and this style of plate although illegal on newer vehicles is finding favour with owners of vehicles registered after this date (1972).

Cameras cannot read white on black plates, and no amount of digital enhancement can make the index number readable.

So unlike the possible penalty of a criminal offence with reflective plates, go a bit retro and you simply commit a minor licencing offence, if yuou are caught that is

Don't tell anyone I told you though
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[Jamie S]

[Blunet600]

I had a look at my mates number plate (he has one) doesnt use his bike enough though for it to be of any real use though, but it looks normal, maybe a little off colour at certain angles, but when flashed it cant be seen at all. I tried making it negative, no difference still couldnt see a thing.
Looks pretty decent, and surely if your stopped, you just deny all knowledge it was reflective? it was a present or something?

[nick606]

although most of it is about sprays theres some more info https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=117015&highlight=

[Jamie S]

Or say it was on the bike since you bought it.

[T.C]

[sickpup]

BSua145 only applies to new plates. Your vehicle is still perfectly legal if it has a plate that met the previous British standard.

[T.C]

[carvell]

[sickpup]

[carvell]

Meh - you know his point was that these reflective plate jobbies won't display the BS make, thus making them illegal.
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[sickpup]

[biglinds]

Hello,

this is a very interesting thread,

Any point that I have made is just to help/guide my fellow motorcyclists, and forums are a fantastic medium for this.

If we get away from the Bs145 discussion for a mo, and look at the now superceded Vehicle(excise)Act 1971, I'm sure reflex reflective plates were mentioned, I think this was the then updated legislation which moved from the old style black and white reg plates towards the yellow reflex reflective plates, and specified size and configuration of letters and numbers.

Also, the driver of a motor vehicle does have a responsibility to ensure all parts and accessories fitted thereto are in a good, clean and efficient working order, per the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986, regulation 100(1).

In a nutshell, if you mess about with the plate to alter its abilty to display its content and the polis catch you out, then you're in the s..t!
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[TheShaggyDA]

It's all a bit moot, anyway. If you go through a static roadside camera slow enough, they don't trigger. Funnily enough.

Anyhoo, when a maker of reflective plates (or spray or film or any other snake oil that can be applied to stop a photo being readable) puts their money where their mouth is and guarantees to pay my fine and full court costs in the event of me being caught with one of their products, then I'll buy it.

I don't see anyone coming forward and offering that just yet, do you?
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[carvell]

Funny you should say that, I remember a company that sold these plates when they were all the rage about 6 or 7 years ago that did say that they'd pay the £60 if you got caught after you bought it.

You still obviously get the points, though.
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[Blau Zedong]

And I got a black / silver plate for the YR5 cause it looked in keeping with the style of bike.

Registered August 72 so totally legal.
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