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dabigginger
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Are dual compound tyres any good? Reply with quote

My rear tyre on my Hornet is getting pretty close to the legal limit (well, on the centre anyway). I was wondering, are the dual compound tyres any good, or am I going to get wheelspin problems etc.

I assume there is more than one make/model of tyre that has the dual compound, so which would be the best choice of them?

Thanks in advance for any help!
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Re: Are dual compound tyres any good? Reply with quote

dabigginger wrote:
I was wondering, are the dual compound tyres any good, or am I going to get wheelspin problems etc.

What nonsense are you talking about? Next you'll be saying you need tyre warmers for a trip to the shops so you have enough grip! Laughing

Of course you won't get wheelspin problems. Even if you fitted Bridgestone Trailwings or something I doubt you'd spin the wheel.

Only bikes like turbo 'busas and V-Max's have issues with wheelspin. Tyre manufacturers /usually/ know what they are doing! Laughing

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I assume there is more than one make/model of tyre that has the dual compound, so which would be the best choice of them?


AFAIK Bridgestone BT010, BT014 and the one that replaced the 014 are dual compound. Michelin have just unveiled their dual compound tyre, and I think its one of the pilot sport range.

To be honest (I'm going to sound a bit harsh here) being that you don't have a particular tyre make and model in mind, it sounds like you've picked up the 'dual compound' buzzword from somewhere and assumed its this great new thing. Sure it may well be that the centre of the BT010 is harder wearing than the edge, and the edge is stickier than the centre. But you'd probably have to be a MotoGP rider to notice the difference in grip.

And as for longevity, I have plain old single compound Pirelli Diablo tyres on my bike (Pirellis Road tyre. Thats right! Not a race tyre, or a trackday tyre, but a bum basic plain old road tyre). They grip as well as anyone needs on the road and they last. They have lasted at least 4000 miles and still look fairly new. I didn't need any dual compound technology to make that happen, and I didn't need the grippies tyre I could buy to stop myself from crashing on the road!

Usually its just a case of: Buy tyres, ride bike. Smile

{edit} unless you're doing trackdays or racing, but I know plenty of people who've done trackdays on BT010's and a few on Michelin Macadam Crossplies! Smile {edit}
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PostPosted: 08:32 - 21 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that it's of much help nowadays, but I think Bridgestone's Sports tyres have been dual compound since the BT-56's.

I can remember the advertising campaign when they came out, showing the picture of a peach cut open.

I think I can recall them actually using the phrase... "Hard in the Middle, Soft on the Edges".
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 21 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need a new rear for my hornet as well so I looked at the Michelin pilot road 2's (the new ones with the good marketing campaign)... but they aren't cheap, a pair is 170 quid on ebay when you can get a pair of conti road attacks for 130.

I'll be putting a new rear conti road attack on mine, grip is great yet the tyre lasted 7500 miles (my last tyres, bridgestones, lasted just 4500 and I've definitely ridden harder on the conti's) and the front is still good.
....Still I too have been swayed by the marketing blurb, maybe when I need to replace both tyres I'll try the Michelin's... besides, by then people will have had a chance to try them and there will be more user reviews out on the net and reports on mileage Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 21 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only back tyre I've experienced wheelspin on was a well-worn Tourance on my Tiger, in the wet.
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 21 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i get wheelspin on mine but thats in the wet and the back tyre is rather worn.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 21 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just put the BT021's on my bandit - and so far they are great. Even better than the already good BT020's. The only thing now is wearing them in so I can get rid of the chicken strips!

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PostPosted: 14:46 - 21 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simply BT021's FTW!
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 21 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure Avon roadrunners were one of the first dual compound motorcycle tyres in the early 1970's.
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 21 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

dual compound as in mitchelin pilot power 2ct?

Ive had them on my GSXR 6 and like them. Going to get them on the new bike on sat too. cant complain about the grip, only the price.... £229 for a set! (fitted)
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 21 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The GPRs on my CB1 are dual compound - the rear lasts twice as long as single-compound an 090...without too many drawbacks in the corners (unlike the BT45s previously used, which were just pants).
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 21 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got the Pilot Road 2's but the weather has been crap since so not really had chance to push them. But they do feel more planted than the pilot sports they replace but the sport is an old tyre design.
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 21 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keir_K3 wrote:
dual compound as in mitchelin pilot power 2ct?

Ive had them on my GSXR 6 and like them. Going to get them on the new bike on sat too. cant complain about the grip, only the price.... £229 for a set! (fitted)


Ouch! I got myne for £193 fitted! 190 rear to!
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 13 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love my Pirelli Diablo Corsa IIIs on the R1 and I got caught in some rain today on the way home from work so was able to try them in the wet and they work really well.
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 13 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

please tell me what dual compound is?
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 13 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
please tell me what dual compound is?


Soft edges, and harder middle (for longer wear).

You obiovusly haven't seen [that big prick] Nicky Hayden advertising them during MotoGP!
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 13 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I'm pretty sure Avon roadrunners were one of the first dual compound motorcycle tyres in the early 1970's.


Not heard of that. First of the single sided swinging arm VFR750s came with Bridgestone dual compound tyres as standard.

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PostPosted: 20:15 - 13 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark83 wrote:


You obiovusly haven't seen [that big prick] Nicky Hayden


That big prick was the fastest man in the world in 2006!! Thumbs Up Laughing Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 13 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Psychonaut wrote:
I've got the Pilot Road 2's but the weather has been crap since so not really had chance to push them. But they do feel more planted than the pilot sports they replace but the sport is an old tyre design.
lol they are better in the wet than the dry and in the dry they are great.
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 13 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to swear by ME33/66's. They were dual compound and the dogs... twenty years ago. I doubt if many of us could fault a pair even now!
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 13 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

fredsredhat wrote:
mark83 wrote:


You obiovusly haven't seen [that big prick] Nicky Hayden


That big prick was the fastest man in the world in 2006!! Thumbs Up Laughing Thumbs Up

He got lucky that Yamaha f*cked up their bike for the first two thirds of the season. If they'd had the bike they had for the last third, Rossi would have dominated (again). It did make for a very exciting last race though. My heart sunk when Rossi crashed Shocked .

Just look how he's doing this season. Absolutely crap now that Honda have started putting their emphasis on Pedrosa. He can't make up for any shortcomings on the bike like Rossi did/does on the Yamaha. Bet he feels a right tit with that number 1 on the front of his bike, the arrogant little turd.
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