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 fire World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 02:12 - 29 Jun 2007 Post subject: Your View On Police Car and Motorbike Chases |
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I was watching road wars tonight, and they showed a few clips of traffics chasing motorbikes.
And the one thing all the videos had in common were, there was a fatal accident at the end were the motorcyclists was injured seriously.
Now lets put aside the rider and his back ground, for all we know he could of stolen the bike, or was just a regular rider who filtered through traffic and decided to take a runner when the police indicated for him to stop just becuase he's a bit stupid *cough* LukeVFR *cough*
The policemen sometimes do not know what kind of character the rider is during a chase bear in mind.
But what particularly intrigued me was after one of the accidents, the police men ran up to the rider to check he was OK (obviously) BUT THEN began to be very sympathetic, and re-assuring to the rider that an ambulance was due to the scene, almost as if they felt partly to blame to of caused the accident!
If your were an officer, were would you draw the line for you to pull the plug on a chase before something serious happens like so.
Would you feel guilt if that man was seriously paralyzed? Or do you feel that its a small price to pay to take a criminal or just a general idiot off the road.
How about taking into consideration members of the public that could be involved in incident which caused the Rider to crash, what about innocent by standers?
Now i know our Police force cant be no push over, what kind of a deterant is that?!
I personally feel as if i was provoking a criminal or an idiot to act more like a danger to himself or others around him, I'd let it go there and then, and rather conduct more a small investigation to find the rider of the bike.
Its a big price to pay for an idiots move, taking in the implications for paralysis etc ____________________ Write off! Honda NSR150 RR ('01) - Sold Cagiva Mito Evolution ('00) - Sold Honda NSR125 ('01) - Current Gasgas TXT 250 ('98) - Sold Kawasaki Z750 ('10) - Write off! Yamaha FZ1 ('09) - Current Ducati Streetfighter 848 ('14) |
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| Im-a-Ridah |
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 Posted: 03:00 - 29 Jun 2007 Post subject: Re: Your View On Police Car and Motorbike Chases |
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| FIRE_NSR wrote: | I was watching road wars tonight, and they showed a few clips of traffics chasing motorbikes.
And the one thing all the videos had in common were, there was a fatal accident at the end were the motorcyclists was injured seriously.
Now lets put aside the rider and his back ground, for all we know he could of stolen the bike, or was just a regular rider who filtered through traffic and decided to take a runner when the police indicated for him to stop just becuase he's a bit stupid *cough* LukeVFR *cough*
The policemen sometimes do not know what kind of character the rider is during a chase bear in mind.
But what particularly intrigued me was after one of the accidents, the police men ran up to the rider to check he was OK (obviously) BUT THEN began to be very sympathetic, and re-assuring to the rider that an ambulance was due to the scene, almost as if they felt partly to blame to of caused the accident!
If your were an officer, were would you draw the line for you to pull the plug on a chase before something serious happens like so.
Would you feel guilt if that man was seriously paralyzed? Or do you feel that its a small price to pay to take a criminal or just a general idiot off the road.
How about taking into consideration members of the public that could be involved in incident which caused the Rider to crash, what about innocent by standers?
Now i know our Police force cant be no push over, what kind of a deterant is that?!
I personally feel as if i was provoking a criminal or an idiot to act more like a danger to himself or others around him, I'd let it go there and then, and rather conduct more a small investigation to find the rider of the bike.
Its a big price to pay for an idiots move, taking in the implications for paralysis etc |
I thought in general most police wont persue a bike for more than the first 30 seconds or so (to see if they will just quickly give in), unless he is extremely dangerous obviously. I seriously doubt most bike chases end in serious injury and fatal accidents, actually I'd say most end in the police car backing off or being left in the bikes dust and calling to the riders home that evening to deliver a summons.
As for the police helping the guy, the police aren't just there to arrest criminals, if they see the guy injured in the road their primary duty is to help him and get him to hospital. I doubt they felt guilty that he crashed doing something stupid, and which they wanted and were trying to stop him doing, but they certainly would have if they had neglected their duty to help him. But I do think all bike chases should be banned (by law) except to get close enough to get their plate and give the rider a chance to pull over in a safe place, unless obviouly the rider has commited a serious crime or is going to commit further crimes. Fair chance though, is quite vague, but cant be applied in all situations, for example a guy driving away on dark twisty roads might go for quite a few miles before stopping as you'd want to stop somewhere safe like a straight, but however the cop cant know whether he is just looking for a straight to stop safely on, or if he is pushing the guy to run in the worst possible place to drive fast and dangerously! |
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Coppers should use stingers on 'em.
If you're stupid enough to try and outrun the cops on a bike, then you deserve to be listed on this website. ____________________ www.bikepics.com/members/jackcheese <--- NOW FOR SALE! 51 Plate Cagiva Planet 125
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i know essex police has a no pursuit policy for bikes. it has good points and bad though (good = less chance of injury and the car probably wouldnt catch the bike anyway, bad = criminals get away and make us all look bad) ____________________ Current : '08 Yamaha FZ1s
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i reckon it should be down to the discretion of the police officer giving chase whether he/she should back off nor not, at the end of the day these scroats shouldnt be allowed to get away with it giving us all a bad name !!
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good point..........in which case the phrase "ride it like you stole it" would be most fitting !!  |
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There are three things the police like to do - eat, read porn and chase motorists. Nothing raises a tent in the serge faster than the old 'blues & twos'... I have this on authority from a very drunken copper mate, so it must be true...
If one removes the possibility of a chase from the policeman's day, he/she will have to eat more and look at more porn to compensate. We would end up with a force of overweight, myopic individuals incapable of going out and catching real criminals to the detriment of society as a whole.
Keep the chase I say. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 18 years, 129 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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