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powelly
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Children riding pillion? Reply with quote

Whats the legal age for a child to ride pillion? and if your chold was old enough would you take them for a spin?

Saw a kid of about 10 on the back of a bike this morning and it got me thinking, I know my 8 year old will want a go when I pass my test but I dont think she's old enough and even if she was Im not sure I'd let her.
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as they can rest their feet on the pillion pegs then they are 'big' enough to ride on the back of a bike if I remember correctly.
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think there's a legal age, it's just up to you. If you don't feel comfortable with it, don't let her on it.

I know when I was 8 I went on the back of a 50cc automatic scooter. My mum was riding it, she didn't have a bike licence. Not sure she'd ever ridden a scooter before. We made it to the shops and back OK cos I'm 22 now and still here!

I think it's just one of those things that you have to decide. Make sure she knows to lean with the bike, and not the other way, make sure she's got suitable gear on (a well fitting helmet, jacket, jeans, boots etc) and maybe just take her out for 5 mins to make sure she's OK with it and you're OK with it.

I have a nephew who's 2, and when he's older I'd love to take him out on my bike. I don't think his mum would be too keen though!
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

AFAIK there's not a specific age.... (but I'm sure someone will enlighten us if I'm mistaken).

Just as long as the child has a road legal helmet, and can reach the pegs etc

OK beaten to it, but at least it sounds like my suggestion was correct. And for the record, I already take my 12 y.o son and two teenage daughters out on the bike occasionally
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i kind of like the idea of taking them for a ride when i have the confidence (and hopefully skill) but at the momeent Im not sure I trust me, or even here to hold on.

Maybe I could strap her to my back Smile
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dazbo666 wrote:
AFAIK there's not a specific age.... (but I'm sure someone will enlighten us if I'm mistaken).

Just as long as the child has a road legal helmet, and can reach the pegs etc


Its a bit long but some more info here:

https://www.mag-uk.org/content/pr/2004/august/pillion_riders_aug04.doc
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Covered a number of times on here.
Basically the law states that they have to be able to sit on the bike and reach the pillion footpegs. That's it as regards age/size.

Obviously will need a helmet and I would recommend other protective gear. Certainly for me the kids are the most important things I'll ever carry on the bike and have them in the right kit. However, it's a real problem when they're still growing because of the cost. Managed to get stuff from eBay, auto jumbles, shows like BMF & NEC, etc. Having said that still see kids turn up at Squires on the pillion with helmet, gloves, jacket then jeans and trainers Rolling Eyes

IMO get some practice and experience first. Then get a bigger bike. Carrying a pillion on something like a 125 is actually quite hard. On something bigger you'll hardly notice. Another tip would be to invest in one of the pillion pal type devices (it's a belt you wear with 2 handles at the back).

As said, do a search on here for pillion and the like and you'll find some helpful tips.

Also don't know where you are but if there's something like BUMPY (click link) then your 8 year old can have a go herself Smile

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PostPosted: 11:22 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take my 8 year old as pillion on short journeys. The occasional trip to school, into town etc. He loves it, as I did at that age.

I ride like I've got a glass of water on the back seat, and he's fully kitted up at all times though.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

WHOSTHEDADDY WROTE
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As long as they can rest their feet on the pillion pegs then they are 'big' enough to ride on the back of a bike if I remember correctly.



And he is totally correct in his statement


But we are all capable of making the correct call Smile
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

saw a asian woman the other day with a kid on the back of one of those electric moped thingies.

She had a helmet on but the kid perched on the back didn't .

Near gave her a gob full as I drove past but thought it may have scared the kid.

Its law here to have a helmet even on a push bike.


Oh and she was on the road at the time
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have taken my son on the back of my bike aged 10. On an R1 that’s the only comfortable size you can take… however he has strict instruction on what to do and what not too, like leaning around me to view the road is a no no and to hold as tight to me as he does his favourite toy a (football). Rolling Eyes

However I have seen many children on the back of bikes smaller than him with insufficient bike clothing and ill fitting helmets. That scares me for them Shocked . I also make a rule of never going over 50mph and on roads where traffic should not be a problem. And he loves getting his bike gear on with his dad, and I to love it. it's a real bond.

then I go down the pub smiling Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.joe-ks.com/archives_jun2004/PoorKidInMiddle.jpg

well at lease this kid isnt likely to fall off

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PostPosted: 13:27 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

well not untill the towel wraps it's self in the rear wheel Shocked
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where the law does get a bit silly is that the law does not state which way round the pillion must sit! Wink

If the passenger wishes to face backwards, that is perfectly legal, and it allows for the likes of film cameramen who will be on a bke during the Tour de France, London Marathon and so on!

But still perfectly legal for Joe Public to sit the same way, although not adviseable.
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

as soon as their strong enough to hold on when the front wheel lifts 4 foot from the floor over some of yorkshires fine crests and hump back bridges
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

T.C wrote:
Where the law does get a bit silly is that the law does not state which way round the pillion must sit! Wink


I am so trying that! Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chriss wrote:
T.C wrote:
Where the law does get a bit silly is that the law does not state which way round the pillion must sit! Wink


I am so trying that! Laughing Laughing


a pillion is legaly alowed to sit backwards astride a bike as long as the foot pegs are designed for it and they have proper grab handles ect.
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="phk6"]
Chriss wrote:


a pillion is legaly alowed to sit backwards astride a bike as long as the foot pegs are designed for it and they have proper grab handles ect.


It does not say that in the regulations, however it would be expected that the pillion would have proper footrests in order to comply with the regs for carrying a passenger.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

As per sagalout's post, I have been taking my boy as a pillion since he was 8(now 13). He loves it, none of his friends have mums with bikes Smile. I think it's hard to beat the kudos of your mum or her bf picking you up from school on a bike LOL.
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My eldest son (now 9) loves going on the back. I do feel nervous when he does though, and ride like a sissy... I bought an old GS550 specifically for him, as it is small enough for him to get both feet firmly on the pegs, a smooth (read 'sloooowwww') power delivery plus it has a 'proper' seat.

I think my two year old daughter may be a bit small yet though...

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PostPosted: 23:53 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I ever have children, the ony time I will take them on my bike is up and down the street or through town at no more than say 30mph. Because I couldn't live with myself if I was to have an accident at say 50+ on a dual and they were to die. I personally would never be able to forgive myself.

My stepdad takes his son, my half bro out all the time (aged 7) has his own helemt, gloves, textiles and boots. Loves it, but i'll only take him up and down high steet.
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 06 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My boy is nearly 6 and can't wait to get on the bike. I'll probably take him around the back lanes at 30mph tops. I'll wear the pillion pal and I have an extra belt to clip him onto the pillion pal for extra safety. Some would say it is too dangerous, but letting him play out after school poses threats too. We can't wrap them up in cotton wool forever.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 06 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My daughter (11 yrs old at time) went out a few times on back of hubby. No further than 3 mile radius from home.

After my off, 30mph road, 800 yards from front door knocked off by local bloke who lives 900 yards away, she is no longer allowed to ride pillion.

Saying that she doesn't want to now anyway.
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