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PostPosted: 18:27 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: "SLOW" painted on road surface + rain = not good! Reply with quote

so took my bike on a little ride after work, including the road attached (nice little twisty section followed by loads of straight line, was trying to see what top speed I got derestricted)

anyway, on the little twisty bit on every single corner "SLOW" is painted onto the road, mid corner, meaning that on three seperate occasions my back wheel lost traction halfway round (I was going stupidly slowly anyway due to rain) and I wobbled myself around the corner. IMO this is a pretty dangerous practise, but I suppose I'd be shouting at deaf ears if I tried to take it up with local authority?
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a public road not a private track, what do you expect?
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I expect it to be safe for road vehicles to use? wtf?
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd suggest as you know it is there, you heed the 'warning' and take it into account, or you could be sliding down the road next time you hit it faster, or wet. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just find it bizarre . Its the only road I've noticed it on. Generally the SLOW thing is maybe 20 metres before corner? Fine, but printing slow somewhere around the apex is daft in any sense because if you're going too fast by that point you'll probably be off the road anyway.
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ride sorta fast but wary... "Always expect the un-expected" Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

May not fall on deaf ears mate, When I was doing my DAS there was another guy doing it to. He was doing it and it was being paid by Somerset County Council. He needed a bike licence because our council had set up a road safety department. Hi job is to continually ride around the roads of Somerset and report things like raised drain covers, pot hole and basically any hazard to drivers and riders.
Check it out with your local council.
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

iloveriding wrote:
May not fall on deaf ears mate, When I was doing my DAS there was another guy doing it to. He was doing it and it was being paid by Somerset County Council. He needed a bike licence because our council had set up a road safety department. Hi job is to continually ride around the roads of Somerset and report things like raised drain covers, pot hole and basically any hazard to drivers and riders.
Check it out with your local council.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to sort out your forward observations. You can see them for tens if not hundreds of yards. Ride between the letters and not over the white lines . . . . Comes with experience. Wink
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is mid hairpin corner!

and my cornering isn't great at the best of times (as I so often lament here)

my forward observations aren't something I worry about too much generally, this just got to me.

Thought there would be more people saying "yeah, on the odd occasion that you find one of these mid corner it is a bitch"

ahr well!
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i read in a news paper not so along ago a woman from a council said we dont want to make it safe for people to go fast we want to make them drive slow

stupid bitch needs shooting i like going fast, and my fast aint 70mph
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you cant ride between the letters, you are going too fast for your ability, so should follow the order, and SLOW down

maybe try getting better at forward observations and cornering rather than just on going fast
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 05 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's worse in Wales because they're billingual. You get SLOW and ARAF one after the other.

There's parts of the Highlands where they've painted big arrows on the road to stop tourists driving on the wrong side. Invariably either mid-corner or in the braking area leading up to one.

You just need to practice avoiding them. Look where you want to go, not at what you want to avoid.

I know of one place where there is a cattle grid on the apex of a corner. There's a sign warning you of one but you think "Nah, not in the middle of a corner." but there it is. Quite funny to watch people who haven't been there before, never known anyone fall off on it but they don't half bite the saddle with their arse.
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PostPosted: 06:58 - 06 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, on the odd occasion that you find one of these mid corner it is a bitch!

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PostPosted: 07:00 - 06 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what would you rather they do? Put nothing on there and let everybody go flying into a wall or hedge after now slowing down sufficiently for the corner? FFS, stop moaning it's not like you crashed.
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PostPosted: 08:14 - 06 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has there been any research into some kind of grippy top coating for white road paint? Question

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PostPosted: 08:53 - 06 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeez, there's some mighty high horses in this thread! These cavalrymen must be riding giraffes! Laughing

If you were going round a tight blind corner at a safe speed, then found a "slow" sign under your wheels, i doubt you would have time to react very much, if at all. Avoiding these is much much more difficult than a manhole cover or similar obstacle, as it's right across the width of the lane, and the letters are separated by barely a tyre's width.

I agree that it is dangerous, nothing like that should be painted near the apex, it's just simply stupid to think that the safest place to put it is where grip is most compromised, and when the information is quite irrelevant at that point as your braking zone probably started quite a few yards back.


Jon B wrote:
So what would you rather they do? Put nothing on there and let everybody go flying into a wall or hedge after now slowing down sufficiently for the corner? FFS, stop moaning it's not like you crashed.


"slow" painted on the apex of a corner would help people slow down before the corner, would it? I see your logic there...

Inform your council, and keep an eye out Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 09:23 - 06 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have used that road a few times and the worst part i find when its wet, is the tar lines where they have dug up the road and just throwing it back together. The worst parts are on the bends between the level crossing and hurst green.
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 06 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it just me or does it seem pretty pointless to have SLOW in big white letters mid corner , would you not say that was just a little too late to heed a warning , as youre scraping the floor with your knee sliders Rolling Eyes

I also find around North Wales that most corners have dam man hole covers half way round , yes you do get used to them but i feel sorry for the bikers that dont know the area .
Probably Brunstrom strategically positioning them lol
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 06 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

richard green wrote:
I also find around North Wales that most corners have dam man hole covers half way round , yes you do get used to them but i feel sorry for the bikers that dont know the area .


I think that's fairly common throughout the country, I spend half my commute here in Surrey threading my way around man hole covers on corners.
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 06 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

richard green wrote:
I also find around North Wales that most corners have dam man hole covers half way round , yes you do get used to them but i feel sorry for the bikers that dont know the area .
Probably Brunstrom strategically positioning them lol


I can vouch for this, it really sucks! I know where about 95% of them are now and I know where they all are on my favourite roads up here. Didn't think of Richard Brunstrom putting them there on purpose though.... Sad
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 06 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

They lay the pipes taking the shortest route through the corner with the minimum number of bends. Therefore manhole covers tend to follow the racing line.
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 06 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

carlmalibu wrote:
this is mid hairpin corner!


I just looked at that road on Google Earth and couldn't find the "Slow" mark (probably hidden under the trees). I also didn't find any hairpin corners, or in fact any sort of bend that would prevent you from seeing a "Slow" mark in good time unless you were going mega fast (not a good idea in the wet).

If you do think road markings or signage could be hazardous on a main road you should report it to the County Council.
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 06 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Few strange reactions, the bloke said he was giving it big licks on the straights then going slow round the corners. If its ablind bend and the sign is on the apex then he cant see it can he? He also can't see anything coming in the opposite direction, anything lying in the road so on and so forth. The only 'forward' observation he could do is to park up, walk around the bend and have a look, other than that its common sense to go slow (the fact there is a blind corner and he's noticed it IS a forward observation surely?).

So for the forward thinkers who can see through hedges, over banks/hills, through walls etc. etc. do you get off and push it round EVERYTIME? Surely going slow is the only option, but you can still lock a front wheel up on a slippery surface at a low speed, and anything can come from the opposite direction at a great speed.

To go back to the original question, its a ludicrous place to put white writing. Fair enough people shouldnt be barrelling around blind corners, but putting slippery writing there is a contradiction to safety. If you think not its almost like saying 'we will have a few people off then that'll teach them'

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PostPosted: 16:25 - 06 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not just put it on a signpost instead then they can have it where they want and how many they want.
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