Scooter Rider: Moving to bikes!?

[Ridge Racer]

hello guys im new here

i just need some advice on a afew things...

up til now iv been riding scooters iv had 17 in total ranging from gilera runner 172's to pug speedfight 50's iv done it all, my speed fights water pump went on me the other day so im now looking to get something tough for a change?

im looking for a geared, 4 stroke prefered, 125 crosser like the following:

https://www.ccwn.org/Ludwig.Geromiller/bilder/mot/DR_ABEND.jpg

i need one that can pull alot of miles off as i do around 60 mile trips every weekend (hence why my 50's die alot) so i don't want anything that will need rebuilds every other week as a result (hence the 4 stroke) id also prefer a good named brand like kawasaki, honda etc, no chinese crap

now im lacking the info on crosser makes etc so can anyone tell me what i could get for around... 400 - 700 quid any recomendations etc?

obiously id like to pay less but if it means il get a better bike im not afraid to splash the cash, it must be that sort of style bike like above as i love the looks of them

also if i were to buy an offroad one could i put it on road at all?! is it easy?

many thanks

[G]

If you're doing miles including anything over a 50 limit, I would look at a 2 stroke.

Rebuilds every 10,000 miles aren't excatly that much hassle and you're going to have to do the valve clearances on a 4 stroke more often than that probably.


So, personally I would reccomend something like DT125, KMX125 or CRM125. I have a CRM 125 and it's a good road bike - it will hit 80mph, but as stock is geared for about 100, so the engine still feels quite relaxed at dual-carriageway speeds.

For 4 strokes, there's the DR125, XR125 and XT125; all of which will probably manage to hit 60-65 flat out.


I appreciate you like the looks, but if you're doing a lot of miles you may sacrifice comfort for those looks.

As far as an off road bike on road, if it was originally a road bike that was say stolen and recovered, you can do it, but expect a load of hassle. If it's a dedicated off road bike, then it's probably going to be a very highly turned competition 2stroke and wouldn't be suitable for long journeys - we're talking more power than a lot of 250cc bikes from a 125. Would however be fairly easy to get it on road.

If you've had a gilera 172, why are you limiting yourself to a 125cc trail bike?

[Ridge Racer]

many thanks mate

[G]

Oh and I forgot to mention the MZ125 SM. These come with road wheels/tyres, but are supposed to have quite good engines for a 4 stroke.

[KTM Gordo]

Just a thought, but I assume you took your 'bike test on a geared 'bike? If you didn't then you're restricted to automatic 'bikes i.e. scooters.
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[Ridge Racer]

i seem to be having real problems actually finding a bike?!

does anyone know any places to look? iv tryed ebay and trade it...

[G]

Try www.adtrader.co.uk and www.loot.com as well as local free ads etc.

Don't expect your perfect bargain bike to be there the first time you look - ideally, get the papers the day they come out and call people as soon as possible for any possible good deals.

[Ridge Racer]

cheers

im looking at a kmx 125 tonight for 475, anything i should check for?

how often do these need rebuilds?

[G]

Don't know of anything specific - but all the usuals, ie bearings, bushing, seals, odd noises, etc etc.

I'd guess rings every 10k miles and piston every 20k or 30k maybe - however it's not like it's expensive or hard to do it yourself.

Make sure you keep it running with good 2 stroke oil and make sure you don't rag it from cold.

[Ridge Racer]

well guys im happy to say iv got myself a bike!

its a KMX 125, was a 200 but has had a 125 engine put in and then re-regged, its a 1990, g reg.. 14,000 miles and is completely mint its got a Dep end can? not sure if its a full syystem or not.. rode it for the first time tonight and wow! it goes some!!

https://scoot-lighting.freehostia.com/pics/

^^ Click the link for pics

i also got given 2 bottles of rock oil fully synth, 2 gearboxoil bottles, 1 BBQ paint for the exhaust, 1 coolant bottle, 1 clutch, 1 carb, 1 complete engine as spare, new fork cover thingies, new battery, new front bulb and a new spark plug

all of that for... 450 quid, bargain? i thought it was a fairly good deal

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[KTM Gordo]