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philwal
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 02 May 2007    Post subject: slipped disc/ lower back pain Reply with quote

Can anyone help with advice regarding a slipped (lowr back) disk?
When can I get back on my bike , and what can I do to help?
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 02 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

slipped disks can take a while to sort themselves out, i would be asking your doctor tbh what to do and what not to do.
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 02 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks
When I asked my Doctor about wrist pain probs i was getting with the low bars on my trident his reply was 'dont ride bikes'
My present mount is a tiger , which is high but straight up position.
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 02 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would be lying back taking it easy for a few days see how you get on, dont strain yourself really, but stay off the bike for now. just imagine what pain you would be in if you dropped it for some reason, it isnt worth it.
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 02 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was laid up a few weeks ago with the same thing. Couldnt have rode if I had wanted to. An upright riding position, a soft seat, comfortable clothing and start off with short rides, might help.

Getting on and off the bike still nips a bit and I find after about 10 miles mine starts to hurt and I am constantly fidgeting or I have to get off and walk about.

Best not to rush things, only get on when your ready.... I attempted to get on mine too soon, cocked my leg over and wham !! it was agony. So I left it another week before I tried again, and I was ok.
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 02 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morphine injections into the spine should help.



Or rest and gradual excercise to build up the connective tissue and muscles again.

Do not lift heavy things.
Do not twist when holding heavy stuff.

Look at a site for BACK PAIN.

It is not as simple as a post can handle.

Talk to a fizio therapist/Dr.

If you have any pain when you ride. STOP.

You could buck your fack up seriously by not taking proper care.


I want you to come back and see me in a week. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 02 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

philwal wrote:
Thanks
When I asked my Doctor about wrist pain probs i was getting with the low bars on my trident his reply was 'dont ride bikes'
My present mount is a tiger , which is high but straight up position.



"dont ride bikes" Just another Nazi out of the Anti-Bike Brigade..

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My advice for your Doctor....... Get a Life Mate! Razz Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 02 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i was gonna say something about that but forgot lol
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 02 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I saw my GP after getting knocked off my bike, he said something about being told not to have bikers on his books Shocked

I said that if I'd have been on a pushbike the van still would've hit me because he just didn't look, would you ban cyclists as well?
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 02 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
philwal wrote:
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When I asked my Doctor about wrist pain probs i was getting with the low bars on my trident his reply was 'dont ride bikes'
My present mount is a tiger , which is high but straight up position.



"dont ride bikes" Just another Nazi out of the Anti-Bike Brigade..

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My advice for your Doctor....... Get a Life Mate! Razz Laughing


Or a doctor who wants their patient to recover fairly quickly, rather than having ongoing problems as they rode a bike and came off Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 02 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:
Walloper wrote:
"dont ride bikes" Just another Nazi out of the Anti-Bike Brigade..

Bast4rd Twisted Evil Laughing

My advice for your Doctor....... Get a Life Mate! Razz Laughing


Or a doctor who wants their patient to recover fairly quickly, rather than having ongoing problems as they rode a bike and came off Rolling Eyes


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Sorry I was just squeezin' a shit out laphin' at that? Laughing Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 03 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
Morphine injections into the spine should help.



Or rest and gradual excercise to build up the connective tissue and muscles again.

Do not lift heavy things.
Do not twist when holding heavy stuff.

Look at a site for BACK PAIN.

It is not as simple as a post can handle.

Talk to a fizio therapist/Dr.

If you have any pain when you ride. STOP.

You could buck your fack up seriously by not taking proper care.


I want you to come back and see me in a week. Mr. Green


Sensible advice from walloper.

I have a 'massive' slipped disc which put me out for about a year.
I worked on my core stability stuff, (muscles surrounding my lower back) with a physio and can now ride again without any problems.
I still have to be careful, picking up the kids etc (Probably never play golf again!), but if you're sensible and stop when it hurts, you'll be ok.
I ride a cbr600f and find it very comfortable.

The message is BE SENSIBLE, back problems can screw your life up.
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 03 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
Morphine injections into the spine should help.



Or rest and gradual excercise to build up the connective tissue and muscles again.

Do not lift heavy things.
Do not twist when holding heavy stuff.

Look at a site for BACK PAIN.

It is not as simple as a post can handle.

Talk to a fizio therapist/Dr.

If you have any pain when you ride. STOP.

You could buck your fack up seriously by not taking proper care.


I want you to come back and see me in a week. Mr. Green


Sensible advice from walloper.

I have a 'massive' slipped disc which put me out for about a year.
I worked on my core stability stuff, (muscles surrounding my lower back) with a physio and can now ride again without any problems.
I still have to be careful, picking up the kids etc (Probably never play golf again!), but if you're sensible and stop when it hurts, you'll be ok.
I ride a cbr600f and find it very comfortable.

The message is BE SENSIBLE, back problems can screw your life up.
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 03 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
Morphine injections into the spine should help.



Or rest and gradual excercise to build up the connective tissue and muscles again.

Do not lift heavy things.
Do not twist when holding heavy stuff.

Look at a site for BACK PAIN.

It is not as simple as a post can handle.

Talk to a fizio therapist/Dr.

If you have any pain when you ride. STOP.

You could buck your fack up seriously by not taking proper care.


I want you to come back and see me in a week. Mr. Green


Sensible advice from walloper.

I have a 'massive' slipped disc which put me out for about a year.
I worked on my core stability stuff, (muscles surrounding my lower back) with a physio and can now ride again without any problems.
I still have to be careful, picking up the kids etc (Probably never play golf again!), but if you're sensible and stop when it hurts, you'll be ok.
I ride a cbr600f and find it very comfortable.

The message is BE SENSIBLE, back problems can screw your life up.
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 03 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

P1LFC wrote:

I worked on my core stability stuff, (muscles surrounding my lower back)


In my opinion this is the best possible thing you can do. Really work on strengthening your muscles to give your spine additional support.

I suffer from a cracked vertabra which can easily cause inflammation if I am not careful with my back. I make sure I sit properly, walk without twisting, pick up and carry things without twisting.

There are some really simply exercises you can do yourself without seeing a physio to get you started. Sounds daft, but doing press ups (remember to keep your back straight) and sit ups helps.
The other exercise I do involves lying fact down on the floor with your chin on a pillow.
Now, arch your back and slowly lift your feet and hands off the floor about an inch.
Repeat with rests inbetween.
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 04 May 2007    Post subject: slipped disc Reply with quote

Thanks for all the advice.
Alledgedely the NHS has a formula.
You suffer for two weeks on painkillers, lots of bad backs cure themseves.
Mine didnt, but got worst. Ended up in hospital with morphine, and catheter, kept in for a week. At end of week as pain had subsided a little, I was taught to walk with crutches to end of corridor- so they sent me home.
Pain got worst trying to do things at home (Nothing strenuous) on more painkillers. Sent to 'hot team' for assessment.
I will now get into the queue for an mri scan which may show what the problem is. This is sometime in the future, so far 8 weeks of the best biking weather has gone by.
Is this a ploy to give me time to either heal or die?
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 04 May 2007    Post subject: Re: slipped disc Reply with quote

philwal wrote:
I will now get into the queue for an mri scan which may show what the problem is. This is sometime in the future, so far 8 weeks of the best biking weather has gone by.
Is this a ploy to give me time to either heal or die?



Well if you live till you 80 odds you'll have plenty time to work on the fitness thing. And then get out on the bike.

You should also use a roll at the small of your back to give the muscles a rest whislt sitting driving etc.

You get things that sort of Strap-On-To-You. But please remember to take it of before going down the pub. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 05 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had back trouble since I was shunted (in car) from behind whilst stationery about 12-13 years ago. Initially no problem then 2 weeks later couldn't walk, 7 weeks laid up.

Since then, had recurring problems - slipped disc 3 times, worst was pulling hamstring. Didn't keep me down for long (a day of laying up then limping for a while) but by far the most painful. Excrutiating pain.

I slipped my disc again in October, should have known better really - carrying my 3 year old around on my back and leant forward to pick something up, click.

Best cure is time, and I take 400mg ibuprofen, gets me through a day without pain.

Also lose weight (my weight was up to 19 stone at one point, never helped. Down to 17 right now, feel better.)

If doing sit ups lift to around 45 degrees only, not all the way to your knees, so you work the muscle underneath your sternum (breastbone) and that takes weight off your back (or so doctor told me, and she suffered bad back so had done all the research on it).

I'm resigned to fact my back is knackered - sciatica, slipped disc, pulled hamstring all that stuff, best I can do is try those preventative things I listed. Best o luck to ya, hope you get it sorted.
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 08 Jul 2007    Post subject: lumbar pain / disc Reply with quote

After suffering for 12 weeks I eventually was so bad that I had to have a disc 80% removed. The mri scan showed that if I did not have an urgent operation I would be paralysed. I was by then unable to move without crutches, below the waist I had little feeling. The NHS let me down big time. I was put back from an urgent case to routine and would still be waiting if i had not gone private. I must thank Mr Shad my surgeon who had me in theatre for four and a half hours, he said it was the worst he had seen in 3 years. But what a result! I can pee again standing up! Feel everything. Walk! I can also claim to be 'rebuilt at meriden' (the name of the hospital at Coventry) I am taking heed of some great advice from many regarding excercises but am not sure when I can get back on a bike, that bit they wont tell me.
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 08 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

For what it is worth, I have suffered severe and chronic back problems since I had the accident that left me disabled back in 1986, and unfortunately the back problem is a legacy of my dissability. When it goes, I am crippled big time Sick

Anyway, to cut to the chase, I have tried Physio on the instructions of my GP and although it works eventually, it is a very gradual process.

So out of interest and frustration, about 6 - 7 years ago I went to a Chiropractor and it is the best thing I have ever done.

First visit I crawled in, literally, I was in so much pain I had tears running down my face. 40 minutes later I walked out standing upright and although a little sore I was for the main part pain free Very Happy

Now I pay a visit twice a year just to keep everything in check unless it goes in between times and the number of times I have suffered a slipped disc or related back problem has dropped by around 90%.

It is not painfull, in fact it is very relaxing, the massage at the end is wonderfull, it is totally non intrusive, and although it costs me £35 a session it is money very well spent.

I get excercises to do as well which does limit the problem areas although nothing is guaranteed, but certainly that first ever visit convinced me, and ever since when I have been in agony, (and when it goes believe me I am in agony) I can always guarantee that 40 minutes or so after I have walked in the door of thre consulting room, I will walk out feeling relieved and comfortable.
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 08 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can also recommend going to see a chiropractor.

I first visited one a couple of weeks ago as I've been having some back issues (unable to get out of bed etc..), within the first visit the back pain was almost gone.

Two weeks later the back pain is gone, and also a couple of issues I've had for the last 20 years with my knees have also improved greatly.

Mine's cost me £30 a session so and it's been worth every penny.
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 08 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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After suffering for 12 weeks I eventually was so bad that I had to have a disc 80% removed. The mri scan showed that if I did not have an urgent operation I would be paralysed.


I was told similar by my GP before I went to the Chiropractor. Shocked

Chiropractor proved the GP wrong, and that was 12 - 13 years ago.

Even now (joke is wearing a little thin now with my guy Wink ) my opening line is how long before I need an operation?

A few sarcastic comments later the GP and specialists are proven wrong yet again Very Happy

The other thing worth bearing in mind, which shows how far things have come, is that when I first went, my private medical insurance would not cover me. Now I get a referal from my GP to the Chiropractor and I get it all under the terms of my insurance with the exception of the forst £50 or so, so I just keep it on as ongoing treatment amnd make sure my appointments are booked in for the year as a continuation Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 08 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You get things that sort of Strap-On-To-You. But please remember to take it of before going down the pub.


damn would never have guessed a strap on could cure a bad back Laughing Rolling Eyes Shocked
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 08 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I suffer from a cracked vertabra which can easily cause inflammation if I am not careful with my back. I make sure I sit properly, walk without twisting, pick up and carry things without twisting.


Odd ...my physio exercises when I fractured my spine in two places and compressed two vertabrae included twisting exercises. Ever get the feeling they make it up as they go along ?
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 08 Jul 2007    Post subject: Re: slipped disc Reply with quote

philwal wrote:

I will now get into the queue for an mri scan which may show what the problem is. This is sometime in the future, so far 8 weeks of the best biking weather has gone by.


I had an MRI recently with the NHS and the only reason it was with them was because they came through quicker than private however I was looking at going private in Norway. £500 bought MRI of left wrist, Flights, two night hotel, breakfast and taxis to airportetc. If it's going to be a while, it might be worth considering.

On the downside I got my result friday and my wrist knackered Sad
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