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PostPosted: 18:58 - 08 Jul 2007    Post subject: A lot of Mongs out today... Reply with quote

Managed to get out for a quick blast on the bike today covering about 100 miles and saw plenty of bikes out and about as is usual for a sunny Sunday.

What surprised me is the amount of quite dodgy riding I saw today.

Four times I had to move to the very left of my lane to avoid hitting a bike overtaking and coming towards me. One time I was coming around a fairly blind right hander and had one of those 'sixth sense' moments so moved over to the left and sure enough a bike came around right on the line I had been on a few seconds earlier.

All of these 'near misses' just happened to on the A29 linking two very popular bike meets - Box Hill and Bury Hill.

Now I know no-one's perfect and we all make mistakes but those overtakes were particularly crap. It's not like it's hard to spot a bright green bike coming towards you is it?

Maybe they assumed I'd move but I get the feeling they hadn't seen me. Oh yeah, all of them were riding in groups as well - maybe the testosterone was flowing a bit too much.

Sorry for the ramble but it did make me wonder why some people put their own safety in the hands of someone else - relying on someone else to move to avoid an accident. Seems a bit daft.
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 08 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because they are dicks?

It's been the first sunny weekend for however long so all the wank riders were out as well as the decent ones. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 08 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

joe wrote:
A lot of Mongs out today...
Stay at home then Wink Laughing Laughing

On a more serous note, I too had a white/blue gixxer(dunno cc)do a daft overtake and I had to move near the gutter to avoid him.. Good job there wasn't a car behind me. Karma
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 08 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

there is another thread which gives a bit of an insight into some peoples attitudes

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=120018&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

apparently things like allowing for the possibilty that there might be something around the corner, or leaving a safe gap between you and the vehicle and front, are things for the city not the countryside

apparently anything goes in the countryside and people ride at a speed where there they leave no margin for error
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 08 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pack mentality.
A group of three is all I ever ride in if I can help it.
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 08 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
there is another thread which gives a bit of an insight into some peoples attitudes

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=120018&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

apparently things like allowing for the possibilty that there might be something around the corner, or leaving a safe gap between you and the vehicle and front, are things for the city not the countryside

apparently anything goes in the countryside and people ride at a speed where there they leave no margin for error
No it doesn't, your just 'spoiling for a fight' now, Fran if you read this, don't rise to it, Colin seems to be on a roll at this sort of thing atm. That thread has nothing in common with this, it's in the opposite context FFS! Rolling Eyes Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 08 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

im not spoiling for a fight

just saying how things look to me

this quote was taken from the thread you think is unrelated

Shaun wrote:

Yes but when you ride in groups then you do get bunched up and if you rode at a speed you could instantly stop at every time you hit the twisties you'd never have fun!

The keeping a distance thing is realistic when in the city but once you get out into the country and come across blind bends and the like it's unrealistic. When riding in groups you don't expect to come round a corner to find someone you're riding with all over the place after they've stuffed up.

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PostPosted: 20:29 - 08 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

wish i was out today, i havent riden a bike since last monday.

but hey the ducati is coming tomoro Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
im not spoiling for a fight

just saying how things look to me


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The keeping a distance thing is realistic when in the city but once you get out into the country and come across blind bends and the like it's unrealistic. When riding in groups you don't expect to come round a corner to find someone you're riding with all over the place after they've stuffed up.


The opposite should be true.
While on country roads you can never always ride to a speed that you could stop for anything that was in your way. At times you would simply be at walking pace.
If in a group you should increase the distance between yourselves. Never mind from the fact you are going faster, but from the point of view that the 1st may avoid a hazard, you can bet your life that the rest won't and will all be in a heap.

Good example yesterday on the A64 group of 10 bikes following no more than a car lengths apart and this was while filtering ( loose discription as they were doing at least 60 Q was doing 40) Had any of the cars they were passing moved over to turn right or just to move right to get a clearer view it would have been curtains for the lot of them.


Stuff like that is valid to this thread.
Its about respect for other road users. Which the OP seems to have recived very little of on that trip, from other bikers.
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
im not spoiling for a fight

Ok

just saying how things look to me

Fair enough

this quote was taken from the thread you think is unrelated

Shaun wrote:

Yes but when you ride in groups then you do get bunched up and if you rode at a speed you could instantly stop at every time you hit the twisties you'd never have fun!

The keeping a distance thing is realistic when in the city but once you get out into the country and come across blind bends and the like it's unrealistic. When riding in groups you don't expect to come round a corner to find someone you're riding with all over the place after they've stuffed up.
I don't get what your trying to say, and I agree with that statement.

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PostPosted: 16:51 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

<shrugs..>

The trick is to do your recreational riding away from popular biking haunts...

And to treat the areas around them as 'Bandit country'.
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The opposite should be true.
While on country roads you can never always ride to a speed that you could stop for anything that was in your way. At times you would simply be at walking pace.


If the road conditions decree that it is only safe to go at walking speed you go at that speed.
What is the problem with that?
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

1930 Ariel wrote:
If the road conditions decree that it is only safe to go at walking speed you go at that speed.
What is the problem with that?


It impinges upon their (perceived) manhood.
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:17 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

1930 Ariel wrote:
"Big bike small dick" Mr. Green


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PostPosted: 17:18 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:24 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

1930 Ariel wrote:

If the road conditions decree that it is only safe to go at walking speed you go at that speed.
What is the problem with that?



I know what you mean and yes you should.

But you go down that country road that has a danger dear sign. What speed do you go at ?
A dear could come out at anytime or not as the case maybe. So it makes no diffrence if its straight or a bendy road. It could jump out 100 yds in fornt, or straight into the side of you, so walking speed would make no diffrence. Well apart form the fact you would not slide down the road as far....

Any road has to be traveled at a speed you percieve to be safe, upto the limit imposed on the road.


Or to rephrase your last comment....

Big dick, crashed bike... Embarassed
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

This old dear is quite agile is she not? The poor old thing should take care as there are deer and motorcycles on the roads.
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

1930 Ariel wrote:
This old dear is quite agile is she not? The poor old thing should take care as there are deer and motorcycles on the roads.



Ah heck... Embarassed

Must have been comming out of the pub Wink
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to watch those deer... I lived in Suffolk as a kid, and remember a friend's father collecting one on the bonnet of his SAAB 96 one night. It gave him quite a turn by all accounts, this amplified by the local plod confisticating the beast, stuffing it into the back of the local MkII jam sandwich and disappearing into the night... Rumour has it the Lodge dined well that weekend and the Head Waterbuffalo had new fancy-dress to play with...

We would ride like Bats out of Hell along the lanes on our silver-black phantom bikes (read Raleigh Runabout, Mobylette and CD175), and the bugger's eyes would follow you from behind every hedge. Occasionally one would break cover from the woods and you'd catch a glimpse of a tanned, muscular beast leaping only yards in front, then with a skittish flick of hoof it'd be gone again, to await the next spotty 14 year old on a crap bike in the dark...
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It were bloody elephants (or terrorists) when I lived in Zimbabwe those buggers (the jumbos) couldn't half sneak up on you considering their size.
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went for a stroll in Elephant Hills once, and I swear something was following me. I kept on turning round and... nothing! Just a faint flapping and a betrunked giggle...
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

must be the area i'm in, but had a couple of groups pass me going the other way.

kept behind traffic nicely and wernt being a muppet at all.

just a nice friendly nod.

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PostPosted: 21:48 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diggs wrote:
I went for a stroll in Elephant Hills once, and I swear something was following me. I kept on turning round and... nothing! Just a faint flapping and a betrunked giggle...


Is that in the East? I was based in Bulawayo but spent a lot of time at Vic Falls, Wankie and Gwelo.
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 09 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

How could you possibly own up to spending time as a youth in 'Wankie'?

It was one of those 'overland in the back of a bumpy truck' holidays - 6 weeks in the company of pissed Aussies, randy scandanavians and whinging Brits...

'Elephant Hills' is a large hotel at Vic Falls, and the bush around was described as 'Elephant Hills' too, for us tourists. The land-mines were a bit of a nuisance if I recall...

Bulawayo was a swinging town from what I remember, but the most memorable night was spent on the Mozambique side. We got to the crossing after it had shut, and had to camp on the village tip as it was safer than the bush... beer at 10p per bottle listening to truckers humping whores whilst we dodged packs of wild dogs in our attempts to take a dump without losing a limb... Happy days!

Sod all about bikes though, for which I apologise...
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