Summons process - a little clarification needed!

[Syx]

I got a summons through, I was pulled in April and the summons is for early September.
I was doing 104 on the m'way, PePiPoo indicates I'm looking at 6 points and a 14-56 day ban, along with a means-tested fine. I'm pretty glad that it's means tested, as I've got very little income at the moment! I've already got 3 points so that might have some bearing on the outcome - fingers crossed on that one.

The problem I have is that I have absolutely no idea about the process. I've obviously got the statement of means forms, which I've yet to send in. There's also some stuff about an early guilty plea which I should probably send as I'm happy to admit to the offence, but should I get myself some legal advice first? Will a lawyer be required or is it just extra expense?

I'd like to hear from those of you that have been through this before if possible!

[paulodd]

I've just started (2 weeks in) to my new job at a certain Magistrates Courts.

Basically i prepare cases that go into the Magistrates, and about 98% of those are driving offences.

If i were you i would just take the points and ban if its given. HARDLEY anyone will win against the courts. You should have been sent a summons form (like you say) also a statment of means (the one that asks you to let us know how much you earn/spend and on what) and also for you to send your licence in.

IMHO just send them back in, tick plead guilty and to sort it out without you having to go into court (bottom box of 3)

On the back of the summons it says something about your statment or something... just write that your on low income and would like to pay the fine in monthly instalments that way, it might be easier fot you to pay off.

1 thing i have learnt in my short time there is you try and fight the courts its pretty much guarentee'd that you'll loose.

I'd still say get some legal advice.


Sorry its not what you want to hear tho.
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[colin1]

maybe when you have been there longer than 2 weeks, you will come across some people who win in court
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[paulodd]

[colin1]

yeah and your experience is a good 2 weeks more than mine which is zip, zero
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[MattEMulsion]

[Syx]

[grassby2001]

[Syx]

Going back to the early guilty plea, as I have no form on which to indicate this do I simply enclose a letter with my means information when I return it to the court?

[tintin]

I'd suggest you get some legal advice - if you are asked to attend then you are usually looking at a ban. A solicitor can argue mitigation and hardship better than you can... it's up to you really.
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[krebsy]

[T.C]

[JAMSXR]

Im going to court soon, im being dun for crossing 2 white lines witch i did not, the policeman had said to me i think you were speeding but cant prove it so im going to do you for something else! And in his statement he gave an exact point where i crossed the white lines, but their are no double white lines their they are 50 yards down the road! I might loose but im going down fighting !
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[Simple]

are you not going to ask to see the evidence they have?

for all you know someone's out there on a cloned bike..

agree with Paul though, but I'd still want to see what proof they have.
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[Faraz]

I thought 100mph and over is 12 points and an automatic ban for at least one year
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[Zanith]

Just curious on this subject.

Wasn't there some wierd rule that if they didn't get you into a court room within 6 months of the speeding offence, you can't actually be prosecuted?

Main reason i'm asking is i have a similer summons which is due October sometime. I was apparently clocked doing 89 in a 60 during January on the A34 Stafford-Stoke road. Now i assume this is on tape via a camera van but i travel that road daily and don't actually remember seeing the camera van at the time .

reason why i ask is i did have a speeding fine for my car over a year ago. letters kept coming in and i just ignored them, close to 6 months up a friend of a friend said to just ignore it and then after 6 months of the offence i am in the clean. he said i'd waited 5.whatever months already that i might aswell just sit it out. this came up whilst we were discussing bikes and such and i was actually going to pay the fine and accept the points. Anyway i've not heard anything about the speeding with the car for nearly a year now so i assume it's been dropped.

I really don't want to plead guilty without seeing the evidence but i feel that i will need to go court so i don't get arrested for being 'on the run' or whatever. Anyone know if having seen the evidence in the court room could i bring up this 6 month rule? apparently it worked for this guy and the case was dropped on the spot .

i've proberbly made that a fair bit long winded and poorly typed out too, sorry didn't mean to waffle on so much
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[T.C]

[Zanith]

Cheers for clearing that up T.C, Rated you up .

Bah, looks like i'm on the way to losing my license then .
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[LeeWat]

I think that i am waiting for a court date, as i was issued a NIP in april and sent it back about 5 days later and nothing since. 53 in a 30 so the NIP (fixed camera) said but i honestly can't remember how fast i was going. Anyway, one of the women that works at our place is also a Magistrate and she told me that anything between 21-30mph over the limit is 6 points and a fine, below that its the usual 3 points and 60 quid. This will put me on 12 so i'm looking at a ban. And the court has a year, not 6 months to sort you out (her words).
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[paulodd]

[T.C]

[paulodd]

[sickpup]

I've never been asked for proof when asking for 14 days to pay. Come to that I wasn't asked for any proof when I asked and was given 90 days to pay either.

[paulodd]

As i said it depends on the magistrates who are on... and the legal advisors (those in court that give the magistrates directions if need be)

And possibly on where it is.... the court i work for is right in the town centre so its easy for them to say go and get evidence
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