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Posted: 23:40 - 24 Sep 2002 Post subject: Cyclists & Bus lanes - bloody little hitlers |
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MCN wrote: | Cyclists fight bikes in bus lane plan
Cyclists have vowed to fight plans to let motorcyclists use bus lanes in London.
A two-year pilot scheme starts this month, which would see bikes use the lanes without penalty. If successful it will be a real breakthrough in opening up bus lanes throughout the country.
But representatives of the cycling community have already begun lobbying hard to get the scheme shelved, even before it gets of the ground.
Peter Lewis of the London Cycling Campaign said: " Bus lanes are a good place for people who cycle and having increased competition from a lot of motorcycles, which have the worst crash and casualty rates of any road user, is not a good idea. "
This is despite the results from a similar trial on the M4 motorway which has operated since July. The Highway Agency reported no major problems, and were quick to stress that the trial, which takes places on motorway approaches to London, would not automatically lead to changes in urban area.
Bus lanes on the A41 Finchley Road will be open to motorcycles this month, with the A13 East India Dock Road and A23 Brixton Road to follow by the end of the year.
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This pisses me off, what gives the little tits the right to spout off like this? They pay no road tax, no insurance, ride slow as hell, never pay attention to red lights and generally make arses of themselves. IMO, pushbikes don't belong in buslanes. Period.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for people riding them - I do it myself - but not in bloody bus lanes please. The average pushbike travels at around 10 mph, the whole idea of a bus lane is so that the bus can travel at a good pace even when the road itself is jammed. Trouble is when Mr Dopey Cyclist starts using it the bus no longer has a way to get past him and is forced to crawl along at whatever speed the cyclist is going.
Now motorbikes are fine. All bikes, even 50cc scooters and monkey bikes are perfectly capable of travelling faster than a bus, so we don't hold them up. We should be allowed to use all bus lanes and the cyclists should be chucked out. If I had a creme egg for every time I saw a cyclist holding up a bus and 10 taxis behind them or nearly causing an accident by jumping red lights at junctions... And they call us dangerous!
If the pavement's clear - cycle there. If there's space at the side of the road - cycle there. For god's sake stay out of the way of traffic, you're not a road user - just a pedestrian with wheels and you're too slow to be using the road.
Would you try driving a golf cart along the M4? ____________________ 3516 Miles, 11 Countries |
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WildGoose White Van Man
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Posted: 00:41 - 25 Sep 2002 Post subject: |
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finchley road bus lane open the bike i see
well what fuckin use is that, when it is clogged with parked cars 24/7 from where it starts, all the way to St. Johns Wood
buses are constantly in and out of it, it really takes the piss
just enough room for cyclists to use it, so they are the only benefactors, and yet, they bitch on, and on
i have a similar view for cyclists as i do for horses, the pavements are where they belong
nothing annoys me more, than being stuck on a dual carriage way by pass, designed to speed up the flow of traffic, when some old codge, who refuses to move with the times, decides to plod his horse drawn carriage down it
or when a convoy of 5 year olds on there horses decide to do the same, there are enough fields in this country, to give horses more than enough room to play, so why the fuck are they allowed on the roads, which brings me back to cyclists, modern roads are no place for cyclists, it gets more and more dangerous, pavements line every road within the M25, so wouldnt it make more sense to bung them on there, split the pavement in half, and have a cycle lane there
add to that, cyclists seem to think the highway code doesnt apply to them, and so how they think they have a leg to stand on to demand such crap as the above letter states, is quite beyond my comprehension
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sorry, but as you can tell this is something i feel very strongly about ____________________ So in other words, he stopped you for being flagrantly in posession of a motorcycle in direct contravention of the Hippies, Darkies and People Whose Face I Don't Like The Look of (Police Powers) Act. 1976 |
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Posted: 10:05 - 25 Sep 2002 Post subject: |
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Round here the only cycle lanes are on the pavement. The pavements are quite wide and split into two (pedestrians/cyclists) and thats the way it should be.
I've seen the way cyclists ride in London...and I've seen sooooo many near-misses
....trouble is the pavements are always packed in the city with people, so I can understand why they use roads there. In the 'less' busy areas of London (and also if the pavement is clear) they should use the bloody pavement. ____________________ NSR125RR - ZXR750H1 - ZX9R E1 - GSF600S - GSF600SK3 - VFR400-NC30 - SV1000N - ST1100-R - CBR900RR-R - GSF1200SK5 - GSF600SK1 - VFR1200FA - GSXR1000K2 - ZZR1400 D8F
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Posted: 10:42 - 25 Sep 2002 Post subject: |
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I think that cyclists should stick to cycle paths, were appropriate...but I really cringe when I see ppl cycle along busy A roads...
RE: Riding on the pavement...isn't there some kind of law against that?...can't you get fined a few grand for cycling on a purely pedestrian carriageway? ____________________ TiN
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From now on im going to ride along with a huge fuck off cattle prod... now there is an idea |
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Hi
Well, cyclists are no saint. Want to really wind up a cycling busy body then point out that cyclists only manage to kill slightly less pedestrians per mile travelled than cars, but seriously injure substantially more pedestrians than cars.
As far as I am concerned they should have the same insurance and taxation rules as other road users. OK many are insured (on their house insurance), but none are taxed.
All the best
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Posted: 10:21 - 27 Sep 2002 Post subject: |
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We don't have many bus lanes locally near me, but I still think cyclists should pay road tax and be forced to have insurance. Motorcycles should be allowed to use the bus lanes. The government should realise this could help to reduce motorcycle accidents, caused by car drivers.
So basically, it's upto the government to decide.... We're all fucked then!! |
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Posted: 10:44 - 27 Sep 2002 Post subject: |
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There still aren't any laws that govern the use of protective gear for cyclists, is there?...relatively fit cyclists average about 20-30mph, probably more on the open road, so even though they can keep up with mopeds, cyclists are not obliged to wear helmets or armour...so when they get mashed, they claim off the council/goverment/other insurance... ____________________ TiN
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Posted: 10:46 - 27 Sep 2002 Post subject: |
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I had my revenge this morning, two of the nitwits riding along the A316 filtering between lanes, all at about 5mph on account of it being an uphill slope. One of them even managed to scratch the sides of two cars - how I don't know seeing as I was managing to fit a pretty hefty bike through there.
Well after a while I was joined by a bloke on a fireblade, who wasn't happy at all. Finally we overtook them and buggered off. Next set of lights we're waiting patiently when the two of them catch up behind and one makes the mistake of telling the bloke on the blade to "move out the bloody way".
Obviously matey had had enough at that point, cos he smacked it into gear and proceeded to do a massive burnout right in front of this guy, it went on for about 10 seconds and when the smoke cleared all we saw was the two cyclists coughing like mad with the front one covered in little specs of black rubber. One of the cagers even clapped, despite getting loads of smoke in their car ____________________ 3516 Miles, 11 Countries |
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madness i wish i was there. ____________________ inline 4's rule |
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Posted: 10:59 - 27 Sep 2002 Post subject: |
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Hee Hee wish I was there to see that
Wasnt it you Korn that saw that cyclist rest his front wheel on the back of an R1's back wheel at some lights for balance, only to see the R1 shoot off and flip the cyclist? |
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Yep that was awesome too, always good to see the pompous gits get hurt ____________________ 3516 Miles, 11 Countries |
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Posted: 18:42 - 27 Sep 2002 Post subject: |
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lol! wicked
revenge.. ____________________ So in other words, he stopped you for being flagrantly in posession of a motorcycle in direct contravention of the Hippies, Darkies and People Whose Face I Don't Like The Look of (Police Powers) Act. 1976 |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 21 years, 215 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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