Engine swaps 101

Dam_buster · Crazy Courier Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Karma :

trust you'd only need one busa engine in a mini!
omgz Shocked

yea shh with the tea boy:P not that anymore, got a new bitch at work Twisted Evil

mwahaha

with the bike, sorted all leaks etc, just need to work on this noise now, sounds like tappets *cheers Ben* to me it sounds v. top end, but I'm gonna pull the sump off 2moz, and check the strainer to see if its blocked as the oil light comes on,
turns off when the bike is stood up, and flickers, so i think maybe there is a pressure problem due to the strainer.

will see tomorrow.

any other ideas?

have a listen.

the light goes out when i stand the bike up Thumbs Up

clickzor
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binge · Emo Kiddy Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Karma :

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Dam_buster · Crazy Courier Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Karma :

right after inspection, found that the inlet cam, just behind the cam chain wheel, its got some scoring on it?

could this be the cause, its not on the other engine.

looks about a mill deep. will get some pictures in a bit,

currently struggling to get the bottom pully off the old engine, to get the cam chain off and out the way to remove inlet cam.

jim
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quacker_boy · Cuddle Bitch Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Karma :

That sounds very strange. Almost like something has dug into it from underneath and is slowly wearing it down.

Wonder how long it is before your camshaft snaps in half? Thinking

Get the pics when you can mate, might help a little bit.

Might also be worth taking the cam off to see if you see anything underneath that could be scoring it? Just make sure you know to time it up again Wink

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Dam_buster · Crazy Courier Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Karma :

looks simple enough to time it back up, bottom pully lines up with case marks, and tops i will read up on:P

pictures.

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/Dam_buster/DSC00291.jpg

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/Dam_buster/DSC00290.jpg

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/Dam_buster/DSC00288.jpg

the camshaft held in hand is out of old engine to show that its not scored,

i think im gonna time the engine up now, get the cam chain and tensioner out, and pull the cams out, give them an inspection, take a look at whats underneath to see if anything is protruding and scoring my Inlet Cam.

JIM

any help big thanks
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Dam_buster · Crazy Courier Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Karma :

right well pulled the sump off to take a look to see if the strainer has been blocked.

aha surprise! NO STRAINER AT ALL!

the guy i bought the engine from assured me there was nothing wrong with this engine and is fine.

bloody well isn't

in the bottom of the sump was metal and what looked like copper? or brass

took the cams out and where the inlet cam is worn down, where it runs on is absolutely annihilated obv from the shiite at the bottom of the sump!

any ideas?
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binge · Emo Kiddy Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Karma :

Been sold a lemon by the sounds of it.
The Cam runner (Or whatever it is called) is part of the Cylinder head is it not?

If thats the case then its a cylinder head off Jobby, To swap it with your decent cylinder head. Which means New Head gasket gasket.

Which means, You may as well of just done the head gasket on the old engine.

Get onto the bloke who sold you the engine and tell him, Not alot can be done now as it was sold as seen. But just let him know hes an ass hole.

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Dam_buster · Crazy Courier Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Karma :

yea tell me bout it,

but well learnt alot through it all, and wont be scared to do it in future, and no that i should have gotten a receipt.

gotta find somewhere to take my old cylinder head to get it pressure checked,

might just drop the fucker out anyway, so i can do it all properly and not struggle.

kawasaki make mechanics.

ha!

jim
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quacker_boy · Cuddle Bitch Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Karma :

Dam_buster · Crazy Courier Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Karma :

yea fooked off, but also glad.

cos now i have sussed cam chain. tensioners and guides, removing heads, and timing, and head gasket.

so not a problem ever again.

jim
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quacker_boy · Cuddle Bitch Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Karma :

As your signature says, Kawasaki make real mechanics Wink

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wizzzard wrote: Imagine God just stopping by, tidying your front room up and then quietly letting himself out again. Statisticly more likely to happen than Korn being on here.

binge · Emo Kiddy Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Karma :

Dam_buster · Crazy Courier Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Karma :

lolz

just a picture to show the damage, and what it should look like.

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/Dam_buster/DSC00299.jpg

JIM
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quacker_boy · Cuddle Bitch Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Karma :

Ouch mate. Good luck with changing the head over now Thumbs Up

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wizzzard wrote: Imagine God just stopping by, tidying your front room up and then quietly letting himself out again. Statisticly more likely to happen than Korn being on here.

TUG · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 May 2007 Karma :

problem with engines is, when you buy one you have no idea what its had done to it at all, so its better to fix what you have. i hope you sort it out soon, try an keep a good mood whilst repairing or you'll just end up getun angry and damaging things. keep up the good work Thumbs Up

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Dam_buster · Crazy Courier Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Karma :

not phased really atm,

little dissapointed, but at the end of the day, what can i do, i have learnt alot about servicing bike engines so far with cam chains and tensioners. so i wont be phased in future!

can just do it all myself!

im stripping the bike to bare frame, and rebuilding, getting everything clean and sorted, so its ready for next year!

gonna get the frame powdercoated, and gonna talk to a mate about a paint job.
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TUG · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 May 2007 Karma :

am with you on that, i'm buyin a cg125 for the winter hack, gunna strip the fzr down to bare and get sumthings sorted on it, maybe head scimed and valves done, maybe some new ones? soft inlet valves on the fzr series Sad

if i get a decent job i could get new pistons and rings in there for good measure.

like i said try not to get annoyed with it, you'll fix it in the end mate Thumbs Up

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Dam_buster · Crazy Courier Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Karma :

cheers bro Thumbs Up

just would have been nice to have some proper riding from it, im sure if i just get the old head skimmed and checked its straight whip a head gasket on and it will be fine, im sure of it,

if not, i'll just get myself a new bike, a old 600 of some sort Smile

2nd gixxer6 mebbe.
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TUG · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 May 2007 Karma :

stick with it, if your after flogging it, where abouts are you? wouldnt mind a zxr400 Very Happy

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Dam_buster · Crazy Courier Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Karma :

lol. well i want to repair it first, i dislike "quitting" and selling things un-finished, done it in the past and dunno, just dis-like it.

gonna keep it over winter as my project, get the wheels done etc. get it all tarted, ride it and prob sell it once its all spick and span Very Happy

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TUG · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 May 2007 Karma :

i feel the exact same, i hate quiting and if i cant fix something i feel like i've failed, i couldnt do my fork seals as i needed a special tool, and took em to my fave mech, really pissed me off that did. i like fixing my bike theres just something about being able to fix it yourself that makes you feel good.
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Dam_buster · Crazy Courier Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Karma :

makes it more of a pleasure to ride when you build/fix it yourself.

there's always that bit in the back of your head saying, "did i tighten the wheel up" or "what if that goes wrong"

i built my 2nd car and it was a pure joy to drive, loved it, then sold it:(
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