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Jockey
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 24 Sep 2007    Post subject: Information on Honda Nc 30 Vfr400. Reply with quote

I`m starting to get as much info on this model as i can as i`m looking to buy one , probably next year, just as soon as i have somewhere safe to put it. I`m looking for the best place to find this info, can anyone help with this? I`m looking to buy a standard bike imported by a dealer officially and will want one in mint condition with very low mileage(under 6000miles, not km), i will be prepared to pay for this as soon as something comes along and i`m happy with my understanding of what is standard and what isn`t.-Jockey.
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 24 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The chances of you finding an NC30 with less than 10,000 on the clock is very, very, very slim indeed.

Considering they stopped making them over a decade ago.

You're more likely to find well-used but well-looked-after ones with the order 20,000 to 30,000 on them.
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 25 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be prepared to pay about £2500 upwards (as much as £4000) for a mint example (ive seen one go for £2800 with 9000miles on the clock) IF you can find one, bear in mind that most owners of the mint ones probably wont want to sell them (its a classic now). Theres also not many official imported ones about in the first place, I think the ratio of Grey Imported to official UK bikes are 20:1. When they came out they was too expensive so not many people bought them, many ended up at hondas race school.

As timmeh said you can get some well looked after Grey Import ones with 20,000 to 30,000km (which for a 16year old bike is nothing) on the clock can go between £1300 to £2000, but obviously there are some dogs too.

Practically all the parts are the same as the UK bike other than a few bits, i.e. bigger mirrors and indicators, headlight relay, no top speed restrictor (most grey imported bikes would have had the restrictor sorted by now i'd imagine its only a 25quid job) and im sure theres something else... Anyways yeah so if you need parts, theres plenty about you can get from Honda Dealers or David Silvers and also as all the rubbish ones seem to have been bought up and broken for parts now, ebay and 400greybike is your bet.

Another thing, because they are so old now, if you have a prang be prepared to have the bike written off by your insurers... (im pretty sure they dont make new fairings for it anymore).

More info can be found at 400greybike.co.uk
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 25 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

performance in Darwen have loads of NC30s and NC35s , be prepared to pay top dollar for them though as they expensive BUT

NC30's last virtually forever , Maurice's NC30 has gone to 102,000 KM and is only starting to burn oil (though he could just open her up and replace the piston rings) , cept they have flaws,

they eat C&S , , they also are not designed for Europeans,.

Plus put some crash protectors on , once you kill one its gone forever, HK fairings are crap,
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 25 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
HK fairings are crap,


They arent that bad....

https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/dsc03985.jpg

well other than the odd spelling mistake...
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 25 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may be looking for a long time, unless you opt for a 'good condition' bike and restore it (more fun too).

I don't think there's many bikes at all with your requested mileage or condition. I did happen to see a stunning example of a UK Spec RWB NC30 at Bury Hill on Sunday, parked alongside an RC30, but that's the first truly fantastic example I've seen in years. It had 6,900 miles on the clock - from a bike made in 1989. One in a million.

Price wise? Difficult to say. I sold my RVF a couple of years ago for £4350 - it wasn't what I would class as 'mint condition' - but this appears a loosely defined term. The 400 market has massively dropped in value since, so there are deals to be had. If I sold that bike today it'll probably make £3250 or so.

My advice? Do some research, go and view some examples, budget about £2500 for a very good example. Either that or scour the country for months for as close match to your requirements. My Blade for example, came from Wales (I'm in Sussex) and was the finest example I could find at the time.
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 25 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It`s a difficult choice for me,but i`m sure with people like you around me i`ll manage. It`s been a few years since i had my last bike(5) and i was still into trials on and off the road(Gas Gas 200), the one before that was a Fantic 200. Before that was when i had my DT175Mx, then it was a Suzuki GS550 Ecn, this story goes way back but i do really need another bike, i`ve had them since i was 10-11 years old and i`m 54 next month. I just wish i could get one of the cracking ones i`ve seen on this site, as you have said there are some right dogs about, i can usually spot them straight away, what has happened to pride in what you ride? My nickname by the way comes from what was my other passion, the horses i used to have and ride, something i didn`t take up until i was 36, very interesting but can be painful!!-Jockey.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 25 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jockey wrote:
what has happened to pride in what you ride?


33bhp restriction happened, then grey imports.

Most NC30's have been owned ( or should I say pwned) by 17-8 year olds who haven't the first clue about bike maintenance or how to ride. Consequently they get neglected. Also said youngster usually upgrades after a year or two, meaning often a few months of sitting in a shed before the next numpty 17 year old gets a hold of it.

Its a shame, but I've just had first hand experience of it with an NC30 myself...
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 25 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Most NC30's have been owned ( or should I say pwned) by 17-8 year olds who haven't the first clue about bike maintenance or how to ride. Consequently they get neglected. Also said youngster usually upgrades after a year or two, meaning often a few months of sitting in a shed before the next numpty 17 year old gets a hold of it.



why do people always say stuff like this? you've got to start somewhere for gods sake, and 400's just happen to be perfect for starting off on. Bikes dont last forever, and most nc30's are about 16-17 years old anyway.
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PostPosted: 08:18 - 26 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron0288 wrote:

why do people always say stuff like this? you've got to start somewhere for gods sake, and 400's just happen to be perfect for starting off on. Bikes dont last forever, and most nc30's are about 16-17 years old anyway.


Perhaps because its true? I have just bought an NC30 and you can tell that once upon a time it was someone's pride and joy, probably quite recently. It has been completely resprayed with a custom paintjob, had renthal sprockets and an O ring chain, braided hoses, new tyres, the suspension feels taut and well damped etc.

And yet, I suspect the owner that did this sold it to a numpty (the previous owner to myself) because the chain was dry as a bone, the air filter was clogged to hell, the oil was black, the bodywork was cracked and scraped on the right hand side, it has a bent clip on, the brake discs are warped, the front rim is dented to hell, the exhaust is bent slightly so its difficult to remove the sump plug and the right hand aftermarket rearset had a broken footpeg. This doesn't sound like the treatment of a bike of someone who knew what they were doing. To top it all off, the bike looks as though it has been left in a shed for some time due to its condition.

I really wouldn't be surprised if just over two years ago it was a mint NC30, until some numpty got hold of it.

I'm slowly in the process of sorting the issues, which won't take long or cost too much money, and when they are sorted, it will be a rideable hack, but it won't ever be mint again. Sad

And lets face it, how many 17 year olds do you know who know how to maintain and look after a motorcycle? I can't personally think of any...
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PostPosted: 09:30 - 26 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're missing the point though.

I'm just saying how can you expect all 17 year olds to know exactly how to look after their first bike. Yes, its mostly common sense, but nearly everyone drops their first bike, or forget to oil the chain regularly etc, it's all part of the learning process.

The owner who kept your nc30 (probably) mint, was very likely to be an experienced biker, who knew exactly what to do because of this.

If you want a mint bike, pay more. You get what you pay for, simple as that.

I know there are plenty of people on 400gb who have "mint" NC30's, so there are still plenty out there.
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 26 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron0288 wrote:
I know there are plenty of people on 400gb who have "mint" NC30's, so there are still plenty out there.


But will they be willing to sell them?

I personally think they wouldn't.

if i had a mint one, it'd be in a heated garage and used occasionally for posing and fair weather only. I'd also have shares in Autosol and polish it religiously craigs23 style...

I'd then get a decent grey/not so mint one for regular riding and look after that like a normal person. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 26 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron0288 wrote:
You're missing the point though.

I'm just saying how can you expect all 17 year olds to know exactly how to look after their first bike. Yes, its mostly common sense, but nearly everyone drops their first bike, or forget to oil the chain regularly etc, it's all part of the learning process.

The owner who kept your nc30 (probably) mint, was very likely to be an experienced biker, who knew exactly what to do because of this.

If you want a mint bike, pay more. You get what you pay for, simple as that.

I know there are plenty of people on 400gb who have "mint" NC30's, so there are still plenty out there.


How am I missing the point? the point is that lots of NC30's are fucked. I bet the ones on 400gb aren't original, even if they are near mint.

It sounds to me like you're agreeing with me that lots of 17 year olds don't know how to look after bikes and they crash a lot. Which seems a bit different from saying "Why do people say that?" when I stated it in my first post.

Most NC30's are fucked by now. Just like most RGV250's are fucked or blown up by now. Yes there are a few knocking about which are near mint, but they are so overpriced its often cheaper to get a slightly shagged one and sort it out, than to pay an extortionate price for a good one.

I would say that I am an experienced biker. And that would mean that I am allowed to be indignant about the state of a lot of these bikes when I come to buy one. Seems like you're arguing a non existent point...
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 26 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone sounds bitter Wink
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 26 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hows your charging system?
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 26 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:
Hows your charging system?


It works OK actually! Smile

And Mau, I'm not bitter in that sense because I only paid £900 for it, and it is definately salvageable. I've spent about £200 on it and its already near mint again. I reckon I could stick it back on ebay for £1500...

Its just a shame to think that really these bikes were and are quite high tech and exotic, but they've been reduced to the yoof's choice of two wheeled sports transport.
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 26 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Its just a shame to think that really these bikes were and are quite high tech and exotic, but they've been reduced to the yoof's choice of two wheeled sports transport.


But for young people wanting to get into sportsbikes, they're perfect. They restrict easily, look great, sound great, affordable, what more could a 17 year old want for their first bike?

Also, you still seem to be forgetting the fact that most are over 15 years old now. Of course they're going to be showing a bit of wear!
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 26 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron0288 wrote:
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Its just a shame to think that really these bikes were and are quite high tech and exotic, but they've been reduced to the yoof's choice of two wheeled sports transport.


But for young people wanting to get into sportsbikes, they're perfect. They restrict easily, look great, sound great, affordable, what more could a 17 year old want for their first bike?

Also, you still seem to be forgetting the fact that most are over 15 years old now. Of course they're going to be showing a bit of wear!


That's the point being made surely?

It's not that they don't make good first "proper" bikes, or that all 17 year old riders neglect them, but generally speaking, they're used as a stepping stone and not kept to their upmost condition.

I had my first NC30 when I was 18 and I know for a fact that it was in good condition, but far from "mint".
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