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PostPosted: 23:16 - 21 Oct 2007    Post subject: It gets worse, just two years for stoning a man to death Reply with quote

https://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/22593

Remember the guy who was stoned to death whilst playing cricket? Well his killers got 2 years, but they'll be out very soon.

Britain under Labour, don't you just love it Mad

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PostPosted: 23:38 - 21 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 23:39 - 21 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a shame, I'm only 23 but even I can notice the difference in the way kids growup, I went through all the usual kid crap, fighting with other schools and all that, but stoning a man to death?

As well as all the shootings and stabbings these days, kids have gone mental.


Could it be an effect of the nanny state culture?
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PostPosted: 07:58 - 22 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kids know all their rights but none of their responsibilities.
as soon as you were told you couldn't smack the world went down hill.
I agree that some went OTT with the smacking but short sharp shock treatment always worked. You now have kids goading you into dong something because they know they just need to say " Mr Policeman that adult did this or that" and the adult would be the one up in court.
Bring back the cane in schools and the clip around the ear at home. Give the adults some power against the young Bullies.
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 22 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
Its a shame, I'm only 23 but even I can notice the difference in the way kids growup, I went through all the usual kid crap, fighting with other schools and all that, but stoning a man to death?

As well as all the shootings and stabbings these days, kids have gone mental.


Could it be an effect of the nanny state culture?


I agree there. I am 25 and there is some difference in young ones now a days, worst you ever seen was a punch up usual stuff a few years ago, now its a few step further. Confused

And 2 years for murder and getting out after one is ridiculous! no wonder they do what they do they practically get away with it.
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 22 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what, but there's something hugely wrong with society.
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 22 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBassJunky wrote:
I don't know what, but there's something hugely wrong with society.


"But to make sure they were not overawed by the proceedings, judge and counsel appeared in court without wigs and robes."

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PostPosted: 18:39 - 22 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe we should go with my method of thinking ie make prisons absolute hell holes thus short sentences are still really really really bad, and people come out with their spirit completely broken.

Is that Mister James I can here , already disagreeing with this?

quid pro quo Mister James, Screws would be given powered armour suits which the US military is developing and higher pay due to higher risk.

Thus you wouldn't have to worry about being shanked on a daily basis, and also to his other thought I disagree that prison has any rehabilitation, thus we should turn to brutalisation of prisoners instead.

The Stamford prisoner experiment proves that this sort of behaviour is within the capabilities of all people.
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 26 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smacking law sucks, it doesnt work anyway.

I remember when i first heard it on the news, i said to my dad, if you smack me, ill tell the police..to which he replied - but when the police have done with me, you wont be living here anymore. Which really sunk in.
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 26 Oct 2007    Post subject: Re: It gets worse, just two years for stoning a man to death Reply with quote

cestrian wrote:
https://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/22593

Remember the guy who was stoned to death whilst playing cricket? Well his killers got 2 years, but they'll be out very soon.

Britain under Labour, don't you just love it Mad

Regards


Fuck all to do with Labour. Blame the judge for the sentencing. If you read the article he has previously been slated for short sentencing...

Still, you carry on with your eternally biased spinning, voting for a party which would effectively bring Britain to a standstill if they ever got power.
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 26 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here we go again Rolling Eyes

"Fuck all to do with Labour. Blame the judge for the sentencing" - Froggeh, the liberal leftie.

So who gives the judge guidelines on sentencing?

ETA I'll give you a clue, it's the same people who promised to deport 4000 foreign criminals as soon as they leave prison, in order to ease prison overcrowding and then reneged on the promise. Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 26 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

cestrian wrote:
Here we go again Rolling Eyes

"Fuck all to do with Labour. Blame the judge for the sentencing" - Froggeh, the liberal leftie.

So who gives the judge guidelines on sentencing?

ETA I'll give you a clue, it's the same people who promised to deport 4000 foreign criminals as soon as they leave prison, in order to ease prison overcrowding and then reneged on the promise. Laughing


Yes. The government give guidelines. But the judges choose. He gave them too little. And has been condemned for it.

Yep I'm a liberal. And? You say it as though there is something wrong with it. Although I consider myself centre, rather than leftie, thanks.



Skudd wrote:

Kids know all their rights but none of their responsibilities.
as soon as you were told you couldn't smack the world went down hill.
I agree that some went OTT with the smacking but short sharp shock treatment always worked


I live in Sweden now, and they banned smacking years ago.
Have you ever noticed how calm the swedes are? It's because they understand the meaning of RESPECT.


Kids, especially young ones learn BY EXAMPLE - All physical punishment does is teach them that you can solve a problem by hitting out.

Patience with kids, and rewarding good behaviour, although more tiring ,works much better in the long run than physical violence.

The only time physical violence should be used is for self defence.
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 27 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

a lad at my work was done for abh, and is doing community service and has a tag that stops him going out after 9pm

i think tags are the way forward
cheaper than prison.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 27 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy from work was surrounded by 5+ men while waiting for a taxi in the middle of a town on a saturday night. They were threatening him, he swung the first punch and before he could even hit them he was bottled from behind and had the shit kicked out of him. It was all captured on camera and they found everyone involved.

He got done for throwing the first punch and a £400 fine.

Where the fuck is the justice in that? Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 27 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

general.queries@justice.gsi.gov.uk

Ask these assholes. Address it to Leftie Straw.
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 27 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

cestrian wrote:
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Ask these assholes. Address it to Leftie Straw.


Living your life filled with hate is a sure way to an early grave.
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 27 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

froggeh wrote:

Kids, especially young ones learn BY EXAMPLE - All physical punishment does is teach them that you can solve a problem by hitting out.


Your logic is flawed, this assumed chavs are teachable and many are not teachable, and understand violence, and it also assumes the chav hasn't stuck you in the ribs with a knife,

in Salford not having the time or a light for a ciggie = death,

perhaps you would like to volunteer to teach in what is colloqually called the death zone, as said firefighters / ambulance / cops won't go there without armed escort buses stop at 6pm, and shops in those areas are like banks the worst place I remember was Lilly's where it was like a bank, press a button to go in, close the door press another button, to open the inner door, inside was a steel wall with a small drawer to exchange money and food.


In a different universe the cricket playing man would have dished our reprisal violence with the cricket bat and probably survived.
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 28 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Living your life filled with hate is a sure way to an early grave" - Froggeh

And just who is it that I hate?
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PostPosted: 01:07 - 28 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
froggeh wrote:

Kids, especially young ones learn BY EXAMPLE - All physical punishment does is teach them that you can solve a problem by hitting out.


Your logic is flawed, this assumed chavs are teachable and many are not teachable, and understand violence, and it also assumes the chav hasn't stuck you in the ribs with a knife,
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Nah it aint flawed. The people you speak of are past the age where what I am saying makes any difference. I am not advocating patience with a older teenager who had already been poisoned by the world around them , but saying that we need to start early teaching right, wrong , and RESPECT.
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PostPosted: 01:18 - 28 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

cestrian wrote:
"Living your life filled with hate is a sure way to an early grave" - Froggeh

And just who is it that I hate?


Your language is that of hate. You spin all your posts with an anti-left jibe of some sort. You stand for a party of hate.
Maybe I am wrong but my guess is that your mind is full of these thoughts every day.

Again. I think extremism of any sort is bad, wether it is from the left or the right.

Your whole attitude is one of right-wing spin.
Maybe you're a genuine guy, but that's not what comes across to me...
I have my opinions of government (both here, and in the UK (where my savings, and pension still are)), but I don't end my arguements, or statements with a politically biased soundbite.

You also assume I am a raving lefty, yet I can guarantee you would be quite surprised by some of my views, yet there is no way I would spell them out in detail here for fear you actually thought I was in any way like you.

I dont come here often for this very reason. I read the bike sections because that's why I joined! But this forum is just emotionally tireing.
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PostPosted: 01:54 - 28 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Your language is that of hate" - Froggeh.

I don't hate anyone so I would appreciate it if you could give me a link to some hateful words that I have posted.

"You spin all your posts with an anti-left jibe of some sort" .........

Not true.

"You stand for a party of hate"......that's a matter of opinion.

"Maybe I am wrong but my guess is that your mind is full of these thoughts every day".....You're right, insofar as you're wrong.

"Again. I think extremism of any sort is bad, wether it is from the left or the right"..... I agree, thats why I'm a centrist.

"I have my opinions of government (both here, and in the UK (where my savings, and pension still are)), but I don't end my arguements, or statements with a politically biased soundbite"....If my politically biased soundbites annoy you, don't read them.

"You also assume I am a raving lefty, yet I can guarantee you would be quite surprised by some of my views, yet there is no way I would spell them out in detail here for fear you actually thought I was in any way like you".....Hmm....maybe not, probably just an argumentative centrist who gets his views from the media. I understand not everyone has the testicular fortitude to say what they really think.


"I dont come here often for this very reason. I read the bike sections because that's why I joined! But this forum is just emotionally tireing.".... I too joined this forum for the bike chat and still enjoy reading the bike related posts. However, there are so many decent folk on here that give fantastic bike related advice that it's hard to follow them. What the point posting exactly the same advice as Stinkwheel or Aerial.
If my posts on this section of the forum warrant the relinquishment of my membership, I'm sure the mods will tell me. I only post items of current affairs on the current affairs section, if anyone prefers not to read them, they can choose another thread, can't they?
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PostPosted: 01:55 - 28 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Your language is that of hate" - Froggeh.

I don't hate anyone so I would appreciate it if you could give me a link to some hateful words that I have posted.

"You spin all your posts with an anti-left jibe of some sort" .........

Not true.

"You stand for a party of hate"......that's a matter of opinion.

"Maybe I am wrong but my guess is that your mind is full of these thoughts every day".....You're right, insofar as you're wrong.

"Again. I think extremism of any sort is bad, wether it is from the left or the right"..... I agree, thats why I'm a centrist.

"I have my opinions of government (both here, and in the UK (where my savings, and pension still are)), but I don't end my arguements, or statements with a politically biased soundbite"....If my politically biased soundbites annoy you, don't read them.

"You also assume I am a raving lefty, yet I can guarantee you would be quite surprised by some of my views, yet there is no way I would spell them out in detail here for fear you actually thought I was in any way like you".....Hmm....maybe not, probably just an argumentative centrist who gets his views from the media. I understand not everyone has the testicular fortitude to say what they really think.


"I dont come here often for this very reason. I read the bike sections because that's why I joined! But this forum is just emotionally tireing.".... I too joined this forum for the bike chat and still enjoy reading the bike related posts. However, there are so many decent folk on here that give fantastic bike related advice that it's hard to follow them. What the point posting exactly the same advice as Stinkwheel or Aerial.
If my posts on this section of the forum warrant the relinquishment of my membership, I'm sure the mods will tell me. I only post items of current affairs on the current affairs section, if anyone prefers not to read them, they can choose another thread, can't they?
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PostPosted: 07:05 - 28 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had some 14 year old lad at my door the other day for my son, he was causing trouble and wanted to fight my son for no good reason (if there was a good reason I would have let him as son does cause trouble himself). Anyway I told him to move from my door, with that he stepped into my porch and boldly shouted at me 'what you gonna do about me stood here?' What could I do, he is a minor? I told him in language he could understand to move, I told him to piss off, he repeated his question so I just walked towards him so he eventually backed off and I was able to lock the front door.

When I was that age I wouldn't have dared to give cheek to any adult, I would have been given a smack and parents would have been told, resulting in another smack from them.

We have no rights as adults anymore
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 28 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
Its a shame, I'm only 23 but even I can notice the difference in the way kids growup, I went through all the usual kid crap, fighting with other schools and all that, but stoning a man to death?

Yeah back in your day they just abducted, tortured and killed babies!
Things ain't changed that much if you ask me. In general if look at it over a decent length of time we have never been safer.
This incident was terrible but lets not let the poison media tell us we are all unsafe in our beds!
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kids know they can get away with murder! (literally)



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