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Posted: 23:16 - 21 Oct 2007 Post subject: It gets worse, just two years for stoning a man to death |
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https://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/22593
Remember the guy who was stoned to death whilst playing cricket? Well his killers got 2 years, but they'll be out very soon.
Britain under Labour, don't you just love it
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Posted: 18:39 - 22 Oct 2007 Post subject: |
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Maybe we should go with my method of thinking ie make prisons absolute hell holes thus short sentences are still really really really bad, and people come out with their spirit completely broken.
Is that Mister James I can here , already disagreeing with this?
quid pro quo Mister James, Screws would be given powered armour suits which the US military is developing and higher pay due to higher risk.
Thus you wouldn't have to worry about being shanked on a daily basis, and also to his other thought I disagree that prison has any rehabilitation, thus we should turn to brutalisation of prisoners instead.
The Stamford prisoner experiment proves that this sort of behaviour is within the capabilities of all people. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Posted: 17:24 - 26 Oct 2007 Post subject: Re: It gets worse, just two years for stoning a man to death |
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cestrian wrote: | https://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/22593
Remember the guy who was stoned to death whilst playing cricket? Well his killers got 2 years, but they'll be out very soon.
Britain under Labour, don't you just love it
Regards |
Fuck all to do with Labour. Blame the judge for the sentencing. If you read the article he has previously been slated for short sentencing...
Still, you carry on with your eternally biased spinning, voting for a party which would effectively bring Britain to a standstill if they ever got power. |
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Posted: 18:00 - 26 Oct 2007 Post subject: |
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Here we go again
"Fuck all to do with Labour. Blame the judge for the sentencing" - Froggeh, the liberal leftie.
So who gives the judge guidelines on sentencing?
ETA I'll give you a clue, it's the same people who promised to deport 4000 foreign criminals as soon as they leave prison, in order to ease prison overcrowding and then reneged on the promise. |
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Posted: 18:24 - 26 Oct 2007 Post subject: |
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cestrian wrote: | Here we go again
"Fuck all to do with Labour. Blame the judge for the sentencing" - Froggeh, the liberal leftie.
So who gives the judge guidelines on sentencing?
ETA I'll give you a clue, it's the same people who promised to deport 4000 foreign criminals as soon as they leave prison, in order to ease prison overcrowding and then reneged on the promise. |
Yes. The government give guidelines. But the judges choose. He gave them too little. And has been condemned for it.
Yep I'm a liberal. And? You say it as though there is something wrong with it. Although I consider myself centre, rather than leftie, thanks.
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Kids know all their rights but none of their responsibilities.
as soon as you were told you couldn't smack the world went down hill.
I agree that some went OTT with the smacking but short sharp shock treatment always worked
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I live in Sweden now, and they banned smacking years ago.
Have you ever noticed how calm the swedes are? It's because they understand the meaning of RESPECT.
Kids, especially young ones learn BY EXAMPLE - All physical punishment does is teach them that you can solve a problem by hitting out.
Patience with kids, and rewarding good behaviour, although more tiring ,works much better in the long run than physical violence.
The only time physical violence should be used is for self defence. |
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Posted: 15:48 - 27 Oct 2007 Post subject: |
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Guy from work was surrounded by 5+ men while waiting for a taxi in the middle of a town on a saturday night. They were threatening him, he swung the first punch and before he could even hit them he was bottled from behind and had the shit kicked out of him. It was all captured on camera and they found everyone involved.
He got done for throwing the first punch and a £400 fine.
Where the fuck is the justice in that? |
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Posted: 23:29 - 27 Oct 2007 Post subject: |
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froggeh wrote: |
Kids, especially young ones learn BY EXAMPLE - All physical punishment does is teach them that you can solve a problem by hitting out. |
Your logic is flawed, this assumed chavs are teachable and many are not teachable, and understand violence, and it also assumes the chav hasn't stuck you in the ribs with a knife,
in Salford not having the time or a light for a ciggie = death,
perhaps you would like to volunteer to teach in what is colloqually called the death zone, as said firefighters / ambulance / cops won't go there without armed escort buses stop at 6pm, and shops in those areas are like banks the worst place I remember was Lilly's where it was like a bank, press a button to go in, close the door press another button, to open the inner door, inside was a steel wall with a small drawer to exchange money and food.
In a different universe the cricket playing man would have dished our reprisal violence with the cricket bat and probably survived. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Posted: 01:54 - 28 Oct 2007 Post subject: |
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"Your language is that of hate" - Froggeh.
I don't hate anyone so I would appreciate it if you could give me a link to some hateful words that I have posted.
"You spin all your posts with an anti-left jibe of some sort" .........
Not true.
"You stand for a party of hate"......that's a matter of opinion.
"Maybe I am wrong but my guess is that your mind is full of these thoughts every day".....You're right, insofar as you're wrong.
"Again. I think extremism of any sort is bad, wether it is from the left or the right"..... I agree, thats why I'm a centrist.
"I have my opinions of government (both here, and in the UK (where my savings, and pension still are)), but I don't end my arguements, or statements with a politically biased soundbite"....If my politically biased soundbites annoy you, don't read them.
"You also assume I am a raving lefty, yet I can guarantee you would be quite surprised by some of my views, yet there is no way I would spell them out in detail here for fear you actually thought I was in any way like you".....Hmm....maybe not, probably just an argumentative centrist who gets his views from the media. I understand not everyone has the testicular fortitude to say what they really think.
"I dont come here often for this very reason. I read the bike sections because that's why I joined! But this forum is just emotionally tireing.".... I too joined this forum for the bike chat and still enjoy reading the bike related posts. However, there are so many decent folk on here that give fantastic bike related advice that it's hard to follow them. What the point posting exactly the same advice as Stinkwheel or Aerial.
If my posts on this section of the forum warrant the relinquishment of my membership, I'm sure the mods will tell me. I only post items of current affairs on the current affairs section, if anyone prefers not to read them, they can choose another thread, can't they? |
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Posted: 01:55 - 28 Oct 2007 Post subject: |
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"Your language is that of hate" - Froggeh.
I don't hate anyone so I would appreciate it if you could give me a link to some hateful words that I have posted.
"You spin all your posts with an anti-left jibe of some sort" .........
Not true.
"You stand for a party of hate"......that's a matter of opinion.
"Maybe I am wrong but my guess is that your mind is full of these thoughts every day".....You're right, insofar as you're wrong.
"Again. I think extremism of any sort is bad, wether it is from the left or the right"..... I agree, thats why I'm a centrist.
"I have my opinions of government (both here, and in the UK (where my savings, and pension still are)), but I don't end my arguements, or statements with a politically biased soundbite"....If my politically biased soundbites annoy you, don't read them.
"You also assume I am a raving lefty, yet I can guarantee you would be quite surprised by some of my views, yet there is no way I would spell them out in detail here for fear you actually thought I was in any way like you".....Hmm....maybe not, probably just an argumentative centrist who gets his views from the media. I understand not everyone has the testicular fortitude to say what they really think.
"I dont come here often for this very reason. I read the bike sections because that's why I joined! But this forum is just emotionally tireing.".... I too joined this forum for the bike chat and still enjoy reading the bike related posts. However, there are so many decent folk on here that give fantastic bike related advice that it's hard to follow them. What the point posting exactly the same advice as Stinkwheel or Aerial.
If my posts on this section of the forum warrant the relinquishment of my membership, I'm sure the mods will tell me. I only post items of current affairs on the current affairs section, if anyone prefers not to read them, they can choose another thread, can't they? |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 16 years, 154 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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