Opinions please!

bikes4life · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Karma :

Hey folks,

I have a yamaha aerox at the moment but im gonna get a proper bike in the next few months. I wanna get a sports bike. The insurance for a 19 year old is too expensive to get a 125 so im gonna get either the RS 50 or NSR 75.

What bike do u think u all think is the best?

Thanx! Very Happy

PsychoHippy · Jammy Git Joined: 02 Jul 2002 Karma :

I'd bite the bullet and go for the 125. You can get reasonable insureance if you shop around, and I'm sure you'll get loads of suggestions from the 125 riders here.

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Hippy, I *think* insure is stupidly high in Ireland (as if it isnt bad enough here!)

bikes4life: Go for the best you can afford would be my advice. Make sure you shop around, lots and lots and lots. Then when you have 2 or 3 good quotes, start ringing to and fro between them, playing them off against each other (like G just did with his NSR )

Good luck!

Robby · Dirty Old Man Joined: 16 May 2002 Karma :

insurance in southern ireland is idiotically high. i would say do your test with a training place if you havn't already when just go for a superdream on something, even group 5 insurance will be about a grand at least.

batman is paying about 8000 euros a year for his RS125. i dunno if he has any claims to push that up, but the situation is silly over there. not even worth thinking about getting a sports bike, see if you can buy a newish bike and get insurance thrown in as part of the deal.

zaknafien · Joined: 25 Mar 2002 Karma :

i think batman likes to remind people that his insurance on an RS125 is about 11k euros about 8k £ sterling (im not joking)

am i right batman?
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Why is insurance so stupidly high there?

£8,000 to insursure an RS125 is daylight robbery!

zaknafien · Joined: 25 Mar 2002 Karma :

errm probably them stupid riots between those who believe in one thing and them who believe in the other.

you know typical result of religious belief really.
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

zaknafien · Joined: 25 Mar 2002 Karma :

if you actually look at the worlds history it accounts for 85% ish of all major wars and fueds or has a large part to play in them.
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Freshstart · Derestricted Danger Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Karma :

stephen wrote

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

I wonder what zimm's next premium would be, after his next case, if he lived in Ireland:lol: Laughing

WildGoose · White Van Man Joined: 21 Mar 2002 Karma :

hed probly crash the insurance database Razz

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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

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batman · Scooby Slapper Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Karma :

nah i pay 1400 due to country address :)
but it is 6100 for a 21 year old on an rs125, about 8000 for a 19 year old
the reason is mainly legal, there are tonnes of claims lawyers over here and there are no caps on what u can claim in damages, u can easily get 10000 euro for whiplash :( on average irish insurance is 10 times higher than the rest of europe
personally if u can afford it go for the ns1(nsr75,80) the rs will be a nightmare of gear changin
the ns1 does about 80 mph flat out and is nice and thin for traffic, well faster than rs50, i learned on an ns1 and an nsr125
just get it for now, build up your no claims and pray the insurance drops like a mother fucker

batman · Scooby Slapper Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Karma :

https://www.nsr125.com/bikes-aviator.htm
thats the ns1,nsr75/80-seems to be some confusion here :)
as i said ive known 2 owners(one still has it) and its a decent first bike when u take the insurance crimes into account

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Or move over here, buy a bike, and insurance, and have enough left over to pay comortably with moving all your stuff over here, and a few months rent/ morgage payments Very Happy

Anthony · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 12 Jul 2002 Karma :

Looks like a nice bike i would get that one if i were you, it would probably be better than any 50cc sports bike anyway Confused

batman · Scooby Slapper Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Karma :

try this for a quote! this is irish insurance lads :)
these are the exact quotes you will get from aon(a hibernian broker NU)
this is cheaper than the alternative of goin straight to hibernian
try a quote, youll piss yourself laughin/in shock :)
https://www.cottermc.com/cat.htm

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Hmmm 9572 euros for a cat. 7 bike (NSR125) at 17, on provisional license Shocked

full comp, and 7254 TPFT!!!!

ouch

batman · Scooby Slapper Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Karma :

hehe thats only third party only-dont even get fire and theft

Dan · Brolly Dolly Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

would it noot be easyer to not have insurance and risking a fine or ban/ wat would u get for riding with no insurance? can't be n e worse than forking out so much!

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Dunno, but the problem would then be when you did want to try and get insurance you would have "riding without insurance" on your license Confused

Scooby · Scrappy Doo Joined: 26 Mar 2002 Karma :

I agree with Dan, think about how many people in England don't bother with insurance. I watched a programme and I *think* it mentioned a figure like 1 in 7 people is not insured to drive/ride their vehicle.

I can tell you for a fact if I lived in Ireland I wouldn't have insurance. It wouldn't work out worthwhile. I know some do-gooders amongst you will come out with all the 'you wouldn't be saying that if someone crashed into you and wasn't insured' but quite frankly, I wouldn't be able to afford to insure a bike in Ireland, or a car for that matter, but I wouldn't let it get in the way of a hobby like riding bikes.
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