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PostPosted: 15:07 - 15 Sep 2007    Post subject: Northern Rock, should I be worried? Reply with quote

Currently got my mortgage/curren/savings with northern rock. Couple of people have told me to get my cash outa there asap, should I be as worried as the people ive seen on TV? They are emptying their accounts! Is this just blind panic?

Im no expert when it comes to finances, aslong as they keep my money safe is all im happy about!
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 15 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

S'blind panic. It's a run on a bank that causes a bank to fold. We're currently in a shaky but not too bad position over all, it'll be something like an article in the papers/on TV that will cause a domino run that really triggers an economic implosion.

Media hysteria is a wonderful thing.
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 15 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
I would get my cash out asap. Your mortgage will be taken up by someone else and it is money you owe so don't worry about that, but your savings are yours and like so many things that goe tits up you will only get 6 pence in the pound. best to be safe than sorry.


What a load of crap.

Firstly, it's the people who are withdrawing their money without actually investigating the situation who are most likely to cause problems - most of them are probably acting on uninformed opinions like yours. Fortunately savings accounts are not the basis of the majority of NR's business, so even a total 'run' on those accounts should leave it able to function.

Secondly, your savings are guaranteed by the Financial Services Commission, thusly:

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f you have up to £35,000 on deposit then you would, in the event of insolvency, get back all of the first £2,000 in your account and 90% of the next £33,000.


So unless you are in the fortunate position of having more than 35k, it's impossible to lose even 10% of your money whatever happens - let alone 94%!
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 15 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's typical British panic, this is something I really, really hate about British people.

I won't bother writing anything else, it'd just be the same as what Mister James said.

Ironically, the only thing likely to cause them to go under is this mass panic. Even then though, they'll still have enough to be fine.
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 15 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting to note many of the comments by people who were q'ing for 3 hours + to get their money....

"We are not worried or panicking, we just want to move our money somewhere else....."

Wonder how many got mugged of their savings on the way to the new bank.....
Or ended up losing money due to penilities or lost interest.... Mugs the lot of them...
One thing is for certain, the BoE or the Gov will not let any bank go under at the moment, or ever come to that.... They rely on the money the banks lend them to keep going....
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 16 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all, going to keep my cash where it is for now! just been reading up on the subject and at worst NR will get taken over, ive got nowhere near 35k in the bank so i should be fine!
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 16 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mister James wrote:


Secondly, your savings are guaranteed by the Financial Services Commission, thusly:

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f you have up to £35,000 on deposit then you would, in the event of insolvency, get back all of the first £2,000 in your account and 90% of the next £33,000.


So unless you are in the fortunate position of having more than 35k, it's impossible to lose even 10% of your money whatever happens - let alone 94%!


In the case of the couple who wanted 1 million pounds of their money out would they be justified in their actions? As said, unless you've got a fair whack of money in there it's perfectly safe.
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 16 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fortunately savings accounts are not the basis of the majority of NR's business, so even a total 'run' on those accounts should leave it able to function.


I wouldn't use the term "fortunately" myself; able to function yes, but only with drawdowns from the BofE. It's exactly NR's relative lack of customer depositors that leaves it so reliant on the Money Market for funding. The lack of liquidity in the Money Market is the reason why NR currently finds itself in a bit of a pickle.

Most UK banks have a wider depositor base and a different business model not as reliant on the Money Market as Northern Crock.
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 09 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr_fisty wrote:
Thanks all, going to keep my cash where it is for now! just been reading up on the subject and at worst NR will get taken over, ive got nowhere near 35k in the bank so i should be fine!


btw Darling went back on the guarentees on bank deposits
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 09 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

All them folks who bought the shares when they were low will be rubbing their hands in glee now they are on the up.
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 09 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am one of those folks who bought shares. Still down on what I bought them at. But fingers crossed.
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 02 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well effectively Northern Rock have been nationalised after ' borrowing' 23bn of government money, which means about £800 for every man woman and child in the country.
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 02 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye, I saw that - not sure I'm too happy about it, although I admit I don't know a huge amount about macro economics.
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