Proposal increase points and fines for "excessive"

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

No, not an MCN exclusive. In a real newspaper.

https://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/article2836449.ece

For of you are can't be arsed to read it, it was outlined in the queen's speech that if you're caught doing

94+ in a 70
45+ in a 30
57+ in a 40

you'll get 6 points and a £100 fine instead of the usual 3 points and £60 fine.

I have to say I agree with the lower 2, but not the motorway one. At a time when traffic police and transport analysts accept that it would be perfectly safe to up the limit to 80 or 90.


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[Matt06]

I personally dont agree with any of them. Its quite safe to so 50 in a 30 when there is no traffic.
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[Rowey]

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Hi

Plenty of 30 limits around that shouldn't be 30s.

Know of at least one that was a 30 limit for several years but got changed to a 70 with no changes (it was a dual carraigeway).

All the best

Keith
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Let them do it, once everyone gets banned and forced onto public transport then all hell break loose because it it's crap.

They don't encourage better driving and it's disgusting that they insist so long as you stay under the posted limits you will be safe. Who are these incompetent fools in charge of all this?

[bazza]

[nick606]

Heres a though maybe they should teach people to drive better and they should teach kids some road sense.


Instead of

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[tomski_w]

Last week, a feckn idiot chav was riding on the pavement on a pushbike riding towards me towards me, I was doing around 25 & was on a slight bend with pelican crossing & traffic behind me, when he decided to pop out in front of me between the van & on my left, straight across to the other side of the road without looking at all.

Missed him by a hair's breadth!! Nearly shat myself! Had no time to stop, if i'd hit him he woulda been mangeld, even if I was doing 10 mph. No doubt I would have got the blame for it.

The government need to educate and come down hard on pedestrians and cyclists in the same way they would drivers of any vehicle. They should be held accountable for not following the Highway Code too.

If a pedestrian steps into moving (or even static) traffic and not use the pedestrian crossing, say anywhere within 200 meters of where they crossed they should be fined.

Bring back the Green Cross Code ethics into school I say.
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[Itchy]

but according to a red top I found lining me chips the other day , points are to be lower but get caught twice in one year it said you'd receive a ban
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[Rowey]

Why am I the only one who dosn't see this as a problem?

If you wanna go fast and get your knee down, go to a track day, where its alot more safer for you, and other people. Otherwise obey the law, like most of the other people who are on the road. Going over the limit by a few mph isn't going to improve your journey time in any great way.

Also to further elaborate on my previous post... kids are taught the green cross road at school still, but it dosn't stop over 150 kids being killed on roads every year. People are unpredictable, and even if it is their fault, they're not gonna come out the better if they're hit by a bike, car or even cycle. And you're not gonna be smiling and say "it was there fault" if you put someone in hospital.

Im sorry for preaching and being the old coot...

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[Rowey]

[c_dug]

sorry for the rant, this is a little bit long!

i think the way the government approaches road issues is completely wrong, this is why:

one of the main problems on the roads is that whole groups of people get blamed for things, a prime example is the amount of young drivers who get branded as "boyracers" and bad drivers, just for being young and having a car.
Im 17 and the amount of times ive been in friends cars and gotten pulled over just for being a group of young people in a car is stupid, one of my friends got pulled over 3 times in one evening!

I constantly see older people displaying terrible driving skills, way beyond that seen from the younger generations, for example the old lady who was stopped travelling at 70mph in the outside lane of a motorway, going the wrong way! when was the last time you heard of a teenager accidentaly going the wrong way down a road?

Im not going to jump to the defence of street racers, racing on roads is wrong end of story, however i do know quite a few who people participate in street racing, i know for a fact that the majority only do it in quiet areas such as industrial estates late at night, however recently the police have been targeting these areas and fining cars for stupid things, this is causing the cars to try and find other places which are often less safe to the general public than where they were before.
Like i said before, i do not agree with street racing however the police could better use their time catching drink drivers etc... than trying to stop something that is not really endangering those not involved.

On the raised speeding fines, i think putting speeding fines up is fair enough however in my opinion the government should consider meathods like variable speed limits on motorways between say 9pm and 6am, 90mph.

Also they should stop wasting money on speed cameras and instead invest in getting more police out on the roads, people learn where cameras are and slow down until they are past however you'll never be certain whether there is a police car 'round the next corner.

Im sure you're going to pick holes in what ive just said however you must see how most of it makes sence

Rant over

c_dug

edit: just to add, alot of the street racers i know are well into their 30's and 40's driving porches, mercades and noble's it isnt just 17 year old chavs

[Matt06]

[jimbothe]

This will probably be no surprise to you all but I notice that a large majority of people speeding in towns and near schools, trying to get their own children to school in time are the very same people that moan about speeding motorists

Every single morning on my commute to work I am forced over to the gutter by impatient women with 4x4 volvo's or bmw's coming down the other way and cant wait for 10 seconds to get past the parked cars. These people have no idea of the speed limit and are always breaking it by a good 10 mph at the very least.
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