VFR NC Specs?

[Thom]

Hey guys,

Right, i'm looking into getting a VFR shortly after christmas, by which time I SHOULD have passed my test.

I'd like a 600 but the 400 might be better suited, i mean obviously they both have to be restricted to 33bhp anyway for two years.

what im concerned about is the 'NC' things.

what are the differences between the different 'nc' spec'd models?

[EddyJones]

There are two types of VFR, the NC30 and the NC21.

The NC30 is the one you want, it was made after the NC21 so its got all those little problems sorted that the 21' had. Slightly better engine too i think.

Also because more people have them spares are a lot easier.

Any more questions pop over to 400 greybike and they will almost definatly have your answer

[Itchy]

what?

Theres no VFR600 to my knowledge maybe a VF but not a VFR

VFR come in multiple flavours,

the NC designation is the Japanese Honda code for them or something

NC21(or was it NC24 I forget) = VFR400 zorst on the right single swing arm , I think single head lamp not seen one for a while skinny tyres very limited tyre choice.

NC30 = VFR400 zorst on the left single swinger twin round head lamps a mini version of the VFR750R,

NC35 = RVF400 , same as the NC30 BUT with USD forks , smaller carbs and better handling which is reputed to be more forgiving oh and a 17 inch rear wheel and a dodgy ram air system. £££££ these days.


The NC30 is a mini version of the RC30, it only comes in 750 flavour and grew into the VFR800, I've ridden the '30 and 35 they seem similar but I skipped actually owning a '30 hard to find a good one.
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[Thom]

thanks guys, good advice.

im looking at any honda in the 400 - 600cc category really and i quite like the cbr babyblade too.

but the single sided swing arm of the vfr caught my attention, matched up with repsol colours and ive got a winner!

[Kara]

[MarJay]

You're all

WRONG!!!


If you don't know your subject, then don't flipping well reply!

Here's a thread I wrote ('back in the day') about 400's. The pics are obviously out of date, but otherwise the info is the same.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=30791&highlight=step+400

The NC designation comes from the beginning of the frame number which starts NC for all 400cc sports Hondas.

To clarify the VFR thing, there was the NC21 first, which had a dual seat and a double sided swing arm. Its old now, and more than likely fucked. I used to own one. It was a nice bike 7 years ago, but I bet it isn't now.

Next came the NC24, which had a similar front fairing to the NC21, with a single 'foxeye' or 'underpants' headlight. However it had a stepped seat and a Pro-Arm single sided swinging arm. Again, if you buy one I almost guarantee it will be fucked.

Then comes our old friend the NC30. This time it has a more VFR750R RC30 style design with twin round headlamps. There are loads of these around, but production stopped in 1995 so again they are mostly fucked. Especially as most people who want them seem to be seventeen year old numpties with about as much mechanical skill as a cheese sandwich. There are one or two good ones about, but I suggest that if you want one that isn't going to ride like an old shopping trolley, then you should get someone who knows about bikes to examine it for you. Unless its really cheap.

I happen to own an NC30, and yes, it was shagged when I bought it. I was fully aware that this was the case, and went in with my eyes open. A few minor tweaks later, and its actually a half decent bike. Its great fun to ride and the seat height and general size of the bike really suit me.

Now, here's the important bit.

What most people don't seem to realise, and its a real shame is that a Suzuki SV650 is cheaper, cheaper to insure (its a lower insurance group) Handles easily as well as a semi shagged VFR, isn't as old, is MUCH MUCH cheaper to maintain and is actually faster as it has about 10bhp more. And almost certainly will be less shagged than an NC30.

So why people would obsess over NC30's is beyond me. I happen to be one of those nostalgia ridden people who fancied the bike that I wanted when I was 17. Again, to reiterate, I knew that it was likely to be shagged.

And as for the NC35? Well, they stopped making these in 1997, so almost all of them will be shagged too. You're much more likely to get a decent one of course, but you'll pay through the nose for it. And it doesn't really count as its not even a VFR400... its an RVF!

Anyway I hope this helps, and I hope that you reconsider the NC30 unless you are really really short or something, because with the state 99% of them are in now, The SV650 is a waaaay better bike.

Oh, and repsol colours are an aftermarket paintjob, and as such make the bike worth less and often are covering up crash damage.

HTH.
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[Itchy]

SVs are only good if you change the std suspension,


it is odd though that'30s are grp 12 ins and SVs are 10, though I don't like SVs period
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[MarJay]

[MarJay]

[Itchy]

I agree I looked over about 60-70 NC30s and most of them were trashed in one way or another,

I looked at about 10 CBRs all of them were in fairly good nick and bought a CBR6 instead. Granted I've pretty much destroyed the CBR I reckon it was a better buy than a '30.

My desire for one stems from the saaf group, which the leader had a '30 (oh and about 10 years experience) and was absolutely unbeatable on it, and compared to my bike at the time (a rotten Gt550 and later a rotten XJ600) and the serious lack of £ at the time made me reckon a '30 was a good compromise.

I'm going to buy one though only as a project for the winter,
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[MarJay]

[EuropeanNC30R...]

Sounds like you've either got a bent downpipe or an aftermarket system?

Nc30 maintenance isn't too bad, you've just got to take your time about it and don't plan to do things in a rush.