guns for xmas

queen of string · World Chat Champion Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Karma :

My fairly sensible 13yr old would like a gun for xmas to shoot targets with (mostly in the garage I think). I know a big fat zero about these things. Sensible suggestions for a good starting point? And to buy them. ta muchly
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stitch · Scooby Slapper Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Karma :

Your fairly sensible 13year old might just have a few far from sensible friends and no matter how good your son is he will want to show it off, In the hands of the wrong person do you fancy the consequences.

I would say wait till hes a lot older.
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mr jamez · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Karma :

BB guns?

Me and my mates used to have BB guns when we were around that sort of age, we had 'wars' in his back garden which was stupidly fun. Just don't let him take it out of the house for obvious reasons seeing as a lot of those things look pretty real. You can get decent pistols for £30 - £40.
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Jamie S · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Karma :

.22 or a .177 air rifle , i have one for sale here , he can come up and have ago of ours if he want's nicky ?

Itchy · Super Spammer Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Karma :

probably stopping trigger happy cops executing no sorry shooting innocent people.

Of course I'd recomend against guns even BB guns , police bear no responsibility for shooting innocents, (even if they are found to be holding a table leg and the bullet wounds are in the back of their head which contracdicts the he raised hius 'shotgun' at us story).
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bazza · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Karma :

Sign him up for the ACF (Army Cadet Force) or similar.
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MaybeGuy · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Karma :

good luck finding .175 rounds jamie Very Happy

you can pick up a .177 air gun for about £30 off the web.
search for surplusstore on google.
they dont have much power at all... i think at most it will go through a plate or 2, if that! the only thing you need to watch out for is ricochet shots, but unless they go in your eye, they dont do anything.
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ZRX61 · Victor Meldrew Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Karma :

You can easily increase the power by replacing the spring with something a bit stouter. My step dad had one that would put a hole thru a milk bottle at 200ft after he fitted it with Caterpillar valve springs... Wink

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gmanxiii · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Karma :

Maybe go for a rifle styled one than a small handgun styled BB gun. Less likely he'll be able to slip it into his bag and take it into school to show off.

There are beginner rifles you can get that fire bb's so are great for plinking in the garage.
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stitch · Scooby Slapper Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Karma :

Retarded answer or not

I'm sure there are a lot of children at that age more than sensible enough to use a gun in the manner it was bought for but that doesn't go for all.

Most young teenage lads wouldn't be able to help themselves in showing it off no matter how innocently. It's their friends that might be stupid enough to load it and swing it about like an idiot and end up killing/injuring someone.

It's not just the one child in question you have to think "is he responsible enough " its who ever is going to be egging him on to look at it and have a go with it, and they will.

My son at 13 is sensible enough but I know for a fact one or two of his friends can barely wipe their back sides never mind a look but don't touch policy I would insist on.
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JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

When I was 13/14 me and my mates all had BB guns.

Quite often we used to go to the local fields and have a "Deathmatch" BB event. No-one got seriously hurt and it was bloody good fun.

Just like when we chucked a huge french banger down a badger hole.
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queen of string · World Chat Champion Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Karma :

Having done a bit of digging it seems there are issues with air rifles and 50m from a road and stuff. Will continue looking down the bb route, and thinking of ways of stopping it leaving the house without my knowledge. Thanks for everyone's input it was helpful.
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On a different note - it's a bit early to have the Chrimbo avatar out, isn't it QoS? Bad enough the decorations are up in supermarkets Sad

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chris-red · Have you considered a TDM? Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Karma :

Another vote for the cadets, I was in the air cadets and got to fly planes/gliders, shoot guns .22 and 5.56, and go to different countries (germany/scotland). It is dirt cheap £1 a week getting him off the streets keeps him fit get him new friends etc.

I had an amazing time and would reconmend it to anyone. But not the sea cadets, they were gay.
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queen of string · World Chat Champion Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Karma :

One of the most useful things to come out of this thread for me, is being reminded to think about the control of anything I might buy. I hadn't considered the idea that it might get sneaked into school or out of the house. So thanks for that people. I think having it locked securely under my control and available to him on request is a great plan and will help him to see that it's a fun item but it comes with responsibilities. Tbh I'm looking forward to having a go myself as is Teaman I think Cool

. I'm liking the fact I can buy him something I would also like for myself, how often do we do that ? LOL.

And whose the daddy is correct I have had a christmas aardvark all year. aardvarks are for life not just for xmas Very Happy

. At home I refuse to start xmas until about the 19th December.
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Visitor Q · $25 whore Joined: 30 Apr 2004 Karma :

Meh, get him one of the see-through ones and let him go mad. Plastic BB's dont hurt in the slightest unless you have gas powered ones.

Locking it up will completely kill the fun from it. Completely.
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