Would a young car drver be treated the same

[Steve_k]

The land of special hand shakes?

https://www.thisisscunthorpe.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=152553&command=displayContent&sourceNode=232468&home=yes&more_nodeId1=152562&contentPK=18982744

What do you think is that all we are worth?

It ruined her life, not half as much as the bikers life.

[airconadam]

ithought that if you caused death by dangerous driving then you were imprisoned not just afine and a ban like you say whos life has it ruined more

adam

p.s and if it was me that did that then iam sure iwould of been imprisoned iam 19 and male so i get classed as a young hooligan in a car just because statistics

[Ichy]

[NSR Mick]

I've had worse for speeding (dangerous driving )
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[Itchy]

[atom]

It wasn't the teleporter, obviously decloaked too late to be seen. Can' t believe how callous she must be.
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[Kal]

Points to the Police Officer giving evidence but for that driver to be back on the road for Christmas 2008 when the person she killed won't be opening his presents is just wrong.



Should be a one strike rule - you kill someone you never drive again, ever.

[Kris]

Just shows what scum Magistrates (and are IME) can be.

Still, as long as she's 'cleared her name', huh...

What a complete scumbag

"Must have been speeding" Grrrrrrrrr
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[stinkwheel]

"I was determined to come to court and sort it out because my reputation matters to me and the truth matters to me."

"I didn't see a motorcycle on that road because there wasn't one there."


Clearly these two statements are mutually exclusive.

The woman should have been jailed. Any chance for leniency should have gone out of the window as soon as she started lying in an attempt to cover her own arse.

The article certainly makes it appear that she is neither sorry nor repentant for what she has done. As such, she shouldn't be entitled to any leniency.

Why was this case being held before a magistrates court anyway? Surely they should have referred it to the crown for a full criminal trial, a man has died?
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[Itchy]

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If it was Dangerous driving, then it would automatically go to the crown court, but for this 'offence level' it is standard for it to be tried in a magistrates court, I believe.

[stinkwheel]

[map]

I am actually stunned and saddened by the verdict in this case.

I am even more concerned about the apparent totally random nature of the English legal system (I hesitate to call it a justice system).

Case in point: Here's an example of a car driver actually getting jail time for doing a U turn and killing a guy riding a bike.
Quite recent too from 16 November 2007 - same date as the report of the other accident.

So, same scenario as the accident at the start of the thread, different outcomes.
Dare I suggest no jail time because one was an ex-magistrate and the other wasn't?

This just damages confidence in the system and undermines those trying to get justice.


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[Deano]

I have no faith in the justice system at all, when I went to court I had a police men give a statement that made me out to be a absolute reckless hooligan when the really when really it was quite the opposite.

Andrew had a court case not long ago where the solicitor prosecuting him was friends with the judges, the witness was found to be lying by his solicitor yet he was deemed guilty of due care due to the liable witness WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh yeah apparently a harley 850 sportster motorbike is no faster the a fiat cinquento and the judges just took his word, when it was protested it was ignored, basically just taking his word for it with no evidence.

Also had a girl friend's B/F who went to prison for 1 and half years after he got into a fight in the street with a lad after trying to stop him kicking the shit out of a girl, him and the lad ended up rolling on the floor scrapping and the guy he was fighting tried to guage his eyes out with his fingers so he grabbed the nearest thing which was bottle and he got a little cut on his head, he got done for assualt with a dangerous weapon with also even with the all 10 witnesses were caught out to be lying.

And the government and police wonder why they get alot of stick or dont understand why we the public dont have alot of faith in what they do.

[JonB]

Fact of the matter is that most young people wouldn't pull out like the old bitch.

Can't believe the complete lack of remorse for her mistake and all she cares about is her reputation.
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[5v3d3b0]

Who wants to go with me to rape her with a chair and break HER pelvis in the process? Then after recovery we finish her.

[ram_doom]

No need for that ^

Me and a mate were discussing it earlier, and the most shocking thing is the arrogance and callousness of the woman. "He must have been speeding." I mean come on ffs, you've killed someone through your total absence of observation.

This is one of the worst things about riding, even if youre good as gold, you still have these people, who look through you as if youre simply not there.
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[airconadam]

iwas laways told you can be the best rider in the world but it only takes the worst driver in the world to knock you off or pull out


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[trevoriv]

Its a tragic situation but i detect a fair amount of bias in that article in favour of the biker or rather looking to persecute the JP, she's lucky to get careless driving as opposed to dangerous driving but at the end of the day it was an accident.

She didnt run him off the road she just didnt see him. We've all pulled out or done a silly manoeuvre and only just got away with it and thought 'fook me if id have been a second later or that car have been coming a second earlier that could have been messy'.

Put yourself in her shoes, you've had a long day and you just go through the motions of driving and you look but dont see, it's all to easily done.

Granted the attitude of the women based on that article alone is pretty shocking. There's two sides to every story.
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[Itchy]

[deanoet]

It is never a black and white answer.

Personally if I killed someone on the road plainly because i didnt see them I would give my license up. Accident or not, I have ended someones life and pulled the rug from under 2 families, + friends.
Would i expect to go to prison for it?

Prison time for an accident as a black and white punishment is never going to be agreed on, and i dont believe is right. We are human, we all make mistakes, some have massive consequences, some you get away with.
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