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craigs23
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 27 Nov 2007    Post subject: Dip my toe into the 21st Century? Reply with quote

To spice up my daily biking?

I can't really change my route to work each day, not at this time of year. The alternative roads either take too long (and I already get up at half 6, and often do overtime), or are poorly serviced/unlit - not a route I'd honestly want to take with the winter round the corner.

I've been reading through some of the comments in the FUN thread - there's a few I agree with my current steed - filtering.....erm,





filtering past other commuter traffic's quite fun, I guess

but that's about it. Most of the time I just want to get home. The notion of being on the bike doesn't really captivate me as it used to. I need something that does.

I have recently tested a Speed Triple, but after a bit of thought, I don't really want to spend that much money on a bike. I've got other long term commitments to consider, and plan for, plus other interests (surprising as it may seem). And that's before I start discussing the build quality of that 9 month old bike...

So, I need something that stirs me a bit more than the Hornet. It's a good bike, but that's about all it does for me. Does exactly what it says on the tin, but nothing really more. I had considered another RVF, and still do, as I (and probably 75% of the forum) know that I like them.

A lot.

But I can't just live in that little bubble and I have an NC30 to look forward to when the weather's right. I think I need some variation, something fresh, something I haven't tried before. Possibly, deep breath now.....something not made by Honda.....

I didn't think I'll have considered one before, but I think I've widdled the choice between:

Arrow An early R6, pre 2004 because that's the ones I prefer the looks/attitude of.

Arrow A K4 GSXR600. Don't like any others really, but I could be swayed by a K2 if one came up at good money/not in blue and white.

The R6 will be cheaper, I expect slightly better finished (pretty stylish from what I remember), but the Suzuki sounds better as stock, plus, arguably, provides a better road-based bike.

So, the juries out. I'm going to read some reviews, look online for a few examples, maybe even test a couple.

Just wondered if you could add your opinions, not just a statement of which model (that means you too McGee Wink ), but also, if you could, why you would buy one over the other.

I'm gonna try and grow myself some attitude.

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PostPosted: 23:30 - 27 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recommend the GSXR.

And not because I own one but because its the better road bike.

It's light weight (lighter than all the six's of the year.)

Obviously the kwak of the year beat it on power with its extra cc but its still not a weak bike stick a can on it and a pcIII and you will easily push 110 at the wheel.

Stock sound wise the bike is evil, the can is loud in the higher rev range and the induction noise is just godly.

Also the handling is spot on.

Also in my opinion its one of the sexiest looking GSXR's.

And you can ride it like a nutter and it loves you for it.

And finish wise modern Suzuki's are up with Honda and the like look after them like you would any bike and they last.

None of my Suzuki's have ever had rust on them or any thing.

Plus the GSXR's engine takes any abuse thrown at it.
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to say R6 but because of there common gearbox problem, i'd go for Suzuki. You don't really hear many bad story's about them.
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PostPosted: 01:07 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

GSXR FTW Cool

and not only cos i got one Very Happy
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PostPosted: 06:57 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
You don't really hear many bad story's about them.


I'm sure i remember something about the K4's fork seals went pop very quickly from new...or something to do with the forks Thinking

Either way, we're 3 years on now so it shouldn't make a difference.

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PostPosted: 10:07 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

quacker_boy wrote:

I'm sure i remember something about the K4's fork seals went pop very quickly from new...or something to do with the forks Thinking


K4 is the same as the k5 and can be picked up for similar prices. The problem was the stock damper fitted leaked on some of the earlier ones. And as far as I am aware was only on the 750 or the thousand can not remember which.

But all would of been replaced by now.
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, Dad will never speak to me again, but on Saturday, I'm off to see:

https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51/whers84/media.jpg

Really like the neo-retro looks, feel some Sheene number 7s wouldn't go amiss either.
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

go for it craig!

r6 or gix6...would love wither.

however i would preffer a 636 or a daytona 675 persionally!
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't be a gix sellout Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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however i would preffer a 636 or a daytona 675 persionally!


I'd wittled it down to these 2 600s....any Honda, except for an RVF is out of the running. Just too predictable, bland, uninspiring. I've stuck to Honda for too long and feel I'm beginning to turn into my Dad.

I'm not keen on Kawasaki 600s really, never done anything for me. The 2nd generation 636s are okay, have the most attitude, but I think they're too focused, plus hunch-back-of-notre-dame ugly (who's idea was it to stick the fairing on upsidedown anyway?)

The Triumph's nice and would be a contender if it wasn't out of my budget, built a bit better and had a better reputation from dependability.

The GSXR seems the most sense, plus it's got a good dollop of attitude. I get into a bretheren that's been going on since the dawn of superbikes but with a bike that's dependable day to day and, according to the road tests at the time - a very good bike indeed.

Plus, just listening to one on Youtube is almost enough to buy - imo, the best sounding inline 4. If a bike can intice me to thrash it just for the noises it makes - winner.
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

craigs23 wrote:
Right, Dad will never speak to me again, but on Saturday, I'm off to see:

https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51/whers84/media.jpg

Really like the neo-retro looks, feel some Sheene number 7s wouldn't go amiss either.

dam right they wouldnt go amiss. SHEENE IS MADE OF WIN! Thumbs Up
nice Gix, hope you get it.
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
I'd like to say R6 but because of there common gearbox problem, i'd go for Suzuki. You don't really hear many bad story's about them.

The R6 gearbox problem was on 1998-2000 sort of age I believe, so a 2003 model for example wouldn't have it! (It got fuel injection also in 2003).

The GSXR does not have anywhere near Honda build quality (unless you count the newer ones), even people on Gixerjunkies admit that it has too thin paint (chips easy) and a lot of the bolts etc rust easily. McGee, you being in the U.S of A probably means yours has held up much better than on our salty wet roads Smile . Also, not sure it's more road biased... if anything I heard the K4/K5 has a very uncomfortable riding position and hard seat etc. In terms of the engine though, it was the best "real" 600 out at the time (Kwak cheated!). The R6 is a bit more revvy, so it's harder work, but then it's more comfortable.

So in conclusion, you should be just as indecisive as before Wink .
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

A test is the only real way to find out. All booked up for Saturday morning...

I find that modern bike's build quality is all pretty comparible - even Honda's CB6RRs and Blades aren't a patch on how they used to be. The only bikes that stand out are BMWs or posh Yamahas (MT-01s), Harleys, etc - from what I can tell of course.

No doubt I'll be the usual sceptic when it comes to analysing the model - but I'm going with a clear head, hopefully not biased from random opinions from bikes I've never owned before.
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I predict that your NC30 will get much use after you by a sports 600. Which is probably just as well!

Thing is, since the you want it primarily for commuting, I don't really understand why you want a sports 600? I know you say you want it to be fun and involving, but such a bike is not that fun for commuting - I just feel I'm not using its potential when I trundle into work.

IMO the only time you're going to get fun out of a sports 600 is when you take it out for a nice ride, for fun. I guess that's what you have the NC30 for.

Why don't you try and go to the opposite of what you have sitting in your garage now, and get a hack. It won't be fast, but it'll be doing what you need it to, won't cost an a lot in maintenance (£140 rear tyres anyone), and you will be taking it nearer to its limits more often - and that is surely when the fun part comes in?

Just my thoughts

EDIT: Should have never got rid of the CB-1 really, was perfect for your needs. Wink
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like a bike first, a commuting tool second.

Recently, I had been questioning where my priorities lay. For me, a second bike should be reliable and dependable, but not compromised by feeling boring to ride - afterall, it is the bike that I spend 85% of my biking time riding. I'm not saying the Hornet is a dull bike, a majority of owners seem to think the opposite, but I can't bond with the thing at all. The shortfalls of the bike's design then change from character traits to irritants, irritants, lead to complaints, complaints question why I bought the thing in the first place.

The CB1 was sold on because I don't think I would have enjoyed my lengthened commute on it. I would have eventually grown frustrated by its buzzy engine and cramped riding position. The Hornet replaced it, feeling a lot more capable for the longer miles, but somewhat not as inspiring to ride on a daily basis.

I'm in the market to find a bike that captivates both ends of that spectrum - whilst also being something to enjoy working on and riding at the weekend. If the last year's anything to go by, riding conditions for the NC30 will be on the rare side....
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The people ive know that have had early R6's have had stuff go wrong with em, thats enough to put me off them, that and there ugly as f*ck.
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 30 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm disappointed Sad Go for something a little more obscure. Everybody knows somebody who owns a Gixxer...

What about a 748? Cool

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PostPosted: 19:39 - 30 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in agreement. You can't have a Gixxer. You always have things other people aspire to own, whether that be from insane amounts of polishing, rarity (ala blade) or a combination of both. You are always different.

Thought about maybe a KTM duke? Something like that?
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 30 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

id suggest splitting your budget, and getting a comfy commuter, and something fun for the weekend
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 30 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

R6 looks way sexier in my opinion, it also has the whole flash factor which I don't really think the GSXR has (e.g "I have an R6 just sounds so much more amazing than I have a GSXR Laughing).
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I've stuck to Honda for too long and feel I'm beginning to turn into my Dad.


Is this a 'mid-life crisis' buy?
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 30 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
I'd like to say R6 but because of there common gearbox problem, i'd go for Suzuki.

Same reason for me, unless it's the 03 R6 (where the problem was fixed).
I've ridden both the 03 R6 and the K4 GSX-R... and my current bike is the one I preferred.
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PostPosted: 00:45 - 01 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

lilredmachine wrote:
I'm in agreement. You can't have a Gixxer. You always have things other people aspire to own, whether that be from insane amounts of polishing, rarity (ala blade) or a combination of both. You are always different.

Thought about maybe a KTM duke? Something like that?



Suppose he takes that advice....he wouldnt be being different now would he Razz


Though the thought of a duke is bloody tantalising as something different, so good call.


Craig23, what about something like an Aprilia Shiver? Thats new, its a bit different, I dunno. I quite fancy one for a next bike...Smile
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 02 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
id suggest splitting your budget, and getting a comfy commuter, and something fun for the weekend

Comfy commuter option not working hence the want for a more exciting daily bike Wink
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 02 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy my k1. 'gwan.
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 03 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Same reason for me, unless it's the 03 R6 (where the problem was fixed).
I've ridden both the 03 R6 and the K4 GSX-R... and my current bike is the one I preferred.


I haven't been online for a few days as my home connection's being changed. But I ended up buying neither option (sorry chaps), instead opting for an 04 R6.

Had a good look around a Honda CBR6RR and K4 Anniversary GSXR, but the 04 was the bike for me.

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