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PostPosted: 00:25 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Tinted visors, legal or not? Reply with quote

Just been looking at tinted visors for my lovely new Shoei (would reccomend one to anyone btw!), but noticed some disclaimers on the few ebay visors. Does this mean they are illegal? Or just over a certain tint %. Oh and also anyone that has got an official (e.g. Shoei) or third party manufactured one, your opinions on them would be great.

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PostPosted: 00:36 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The legalities as far as I'm aware is 17%. Apparently any decent copper will use their brains and if its in the middle of a bright day, a visor which is more so will probably slide, but at the same time, even the 17% during nighttime or poor visibility will be questioned.

Remember the police have the right(if not the right, then they do anyway) to confiscate any visor which they believe to be over the 17%, so if its over the top, you could be riding home visorless

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PostPosted: 00:39 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's illegal but keeping a spare on you at all times solves the problem so what's there to worry about? Useful even in winter with the low sun. It'll be stupid not to wear a dark visor in the low sun conditions.
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PostPosted: 00:41 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

You can get legally tinted visor, but the amount of tint that is legal is barely noticeable. Limit is 50% light transmission, which is a very light smoked effect.

All the best

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PostPosted: 00:56 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a dark visor, but as an alternative there is the Fog City Hyperoptiks which is activated by light and darkens itself from green to blue.

Someone I know has one and really rates it but a black visor is so much cooler... Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 00:57 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where's the cheapest place to get tinted Visors? I have an HJC-HJ05..type thing, been to visorshop.com and Ebay, can't find any and not buying a new expensive lid for one.
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to you three Karma
Do you know of any good suppliers? recommendations are always good Smile
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PostPosted: 01:00 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.racevisors.co.uk/

https://www.visorshop.com/
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PostPosted: 01:31 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

IIRC there ok if they don't say not for road use(or similar) and you carry a spare clear one. There is a big ebay shop based in gurnsey that sells them for about £30 I have had 2 from there and would recomend them.
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PostPosted: 01:36 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

got a fog city tint and never been done cos of it even when i was pulled at night wearing it, luck of the draw.
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok cheers guys. One last thing: Do the strong tint, or irridium, visors cause any sight problems? AKA is it harder to see with them / does it actually make it less safe etc. Cheers
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 minute searching the forum

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=123397&highlight=tinted+visors

shock horror it works.

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PostPosted: 11:24 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luke wrote:
1 minute searching the forum

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=123397&highlight=tinted+visors

shock horror it works.

Luke


Thanks, but no need to be sarcy about it Confused Although searching can be useful sometimes, when you make your own post you can ask further questions after the initial one has been answered. Also, excluding Biking News, I'm every new post on this forum could be avioded by everyone searching existing ones, but then there wouldn't be a very good forum any more would there Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

AppleJoe wrote:
Do the strong tint, or irridium, visors cause any sight problems? AKA is it harder to see with them / does it actually make it less safe etc. Cheers


Depending on the colour of the tint they can make traffic light illumination less distinct. Generally not a problem though.

By the way, doesn't matter whether you have a clear one on you or not you can still be done. All carrying a clear one does is show that you may be being slightly sensible in the hope the copper will let you off.

All the best

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PostPosted: 13:08 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When i crashed my bike into a car as a result of a lowside, EVERYTHING about me and my bike was wrong!

Arrow Small Plate
Arrow Loud Pipe
Arrow Black Visor

and NONE of these points were taken! Thumbs Up So goes to show that some cops (these were traffic) were still having a moderate view on bikers - they were really friendly like too.
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When i was at the NEC, bought a black visor for my Shark Smile

Had it on the next day, got stopped on the way to work Sad

But the copper actually was ok (ish) and just said, you make sure you get it changed.

I did ask him if he was going to stop every car driver with sunglasses on though. He agreed and said, "Yeah, I know the law aint consistent enough, tell me about it." I was like....nice one lol


And cos he wasnt a cock and I dont have "authority" issues (well not right now I dont Razz) I changed it back.


Riding with a dark visor at night is well shit Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fawbish wrote:
Riding with a dark visor at night is well shit Thumbs Down


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PostPosted: 13:59 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

SES YEH MAM


Razz Ive already seen the visor you poof, knew youd say that.


I actually didnt like riding with it at night though...lights looked all off and my headlights looked like they werent actually on.


Bet you see it more of a challenge D
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ha its not a challenge, just makes u appreciate light more,
you have to work harder to keep going at a reasonable pace.

(just blame having a pillion and carb icing Nath Thumbs Up )
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, the legal limit is a mere 15%. I have a 10% visor and it's not worth owning, it doesn't block out enough light, especially in low sun conditions.

I use a black visor (tried a black pinlock but the sun always seemed to be in the tiny strip between the pinlock and visor top) and carry a clear one. I've never been stopped for the visor, or even had it mentioned.

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PostPosted: 14:54 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dav1 wrote:
ha its not a challenge, just makes u appreciate light more,
you have to work harder to keep going at a reasonable pace.

(just blame having a pillion and carb icing Nath Thumbs Up )


I will, thankyou Smile


He was like, 13 stone! When we were at gym, he actually measured it aswell, fucking mad, he's only our size! lol

And can you explain it without carb icing/shit in my fuel lines? Cos its been fucking fine since lol *shrugs* Confused
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

the grim reaper wrote:
Actually, the legal limit is a mere 15%.


What's your source for this? Every single thing I've read indicates that visors must have a minimum of 50% light transmission in mainland UK.
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fawbish wrote:

I did ask him if he was going to stop every car driver with sunglasses on though. He agreed and said, "Yeah, I know the law aint consistent enough, tell me about it." I was like....nice one lol


You arent allowed to have a tinted front windscreen past a certain tint level, you can wear sunglasses to any darkness..

Same applies for helmets, you arent allowed to have a seriously tinted visor, but you can wear sunglasses underneath the visor no problem.

Mine has flip down tinted sunglasses type thing, works well, everyone is happy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

windscreens have to let 75% light through, VERY much doubt you'd not get noticed with a 25% tinted visor. Karma

Plus, I want one but can't get one for less than £20, can get a new lid without for £30, is ridiculous for a bit of plastic and coloured foil. Rolling Eyes

EDIT- may order one :https://www.visorshop.com/track_tints_univeral_fit_track_tints_universal_accessories_1.html
https://www.visorshop.com/ProductImages/daedb91f69e14180a7f055579c5779b1.gif
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 11 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely it must be annoying having to carry a spare everywhere you go?!
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