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St0rmer66
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 19 Dec 2007    Post subject: CBR600F front end into GPZ500S? Reply with quote

Someone mentioned this to me once but I've never managed to find any info on it. Anyone any ideas which model exactly it is? Any issues with it?

My guess is something like an F1 or F2 at most since the GPZ design hasn't changed much really apart from 1994 (which is still 13yrs ago!).
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 19 Dec 2007    Post subject: Re: CBR600F front end into GPZ500S? Reply with quote

St0rmer66 wrote:
Someone mentioned this to me once but I've never managed to find any info on it. Anyone any ideas which model exactly it is? Any issues with it?

My guess is something like an F1 or F2 at most since the GPZ design hasn't changed much really apart from 1994 (which is still 13yrs ago!).


I'm probably not going to be the only one to say it but...

Why not buy a CBR600?
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 19 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look here
https://mfes.com/wade/F2front.html

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PostPosted: 20:57 - 19 Dec 2007    Post subject: Re: CBR600F front end into GPZ500S? Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
St0rmer66 wrote:
Someone mentioned this to me once but I've never managed to find any info on it. Anyone any ideas which model exactly it is? Any issues with it?

My guess is something like an F1 or F2 at most since the GPZ design hasn't changed much really apart from 1994 (which is still 13yrs ago!).


I'm probably not going to be the only one to say it but...

Why not buy a CBR600?

Stuck on my restriction until March 2009 and a CBR600 restricted would be worse than my GPZ. If I can get the front end cheap enough it would add a bit of extra ability to it for my prison sentence on this thing Razz .
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 19 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polish? Turd?

Just buy a better bike. I dont really understand performance upgrades to a budget commuter. The CBR600F hardly set the world on fire either.

Just ride it as it is as I'm pretty sure you wouldnt notice any difference and if you did it would be worse.
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 19 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the link tomsmith.

After reading it I don't think it's a good idea for me to bother getting it done. I have no way of making the spacers or sleeve and no way to bore out the fork clamps. Which means to get it all done professionally would defeat the object of doing it on the cheap.

The brakes on this are just so terrible. Single front disc with 2pot callipers. Braided lines increased my control of them, but ultimately they are no better.

As mentioned gsxrmick, no point me getting a better bike whilst on my restriction as being a twin my bike is probably best at the job and is already restricted etc.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 19 Dec 2007    Post subject: Re: CBR600F front end into GPZ500S? Reply with quote

St0rmer66 wrote:
If I can get the front end cheap enough it would add a bit of extra ability to it for my prison sentence on this thing Razz .


It would probably be far cheaper and better to just get the forks sorted out by some company that knows what they are doing (as you would need to do the same with the CBR front end to get it working anyway).

And having a fair amount wider front tyre while keeping the skinny rear would probably have strange effects as well.

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PostPosted: 21:07 - 19 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

St0rmer66 wrote:
The brakes on this are just so terrible. Single front disc with 2pot callipers. Braided lines increased my control of them, but ultimately they are no better.


Get a twin disk front end used on the GPZ in some markets.

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As mentioned gsxrmick, no point me getting a better bike whilst on my restriction as being a twin my bike is probably best at the job and is already restricted etc.


Except the GPZ is a twin that thrives on revs, and large throttle openings. Which won't make it that suitable for restriction (although to be honest when dynoed Charlottes one make 45hp anyway).

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PostPosted: 21:15 - 19 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As mentioned gsxrmick, no point me getting a better bike whilst on my restriction as being a twin my bike is probably best at the job and is already restricted etc.


I keep forgetting about 33bhp restriction as it never affected me. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 19 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

progressive fork springs and thicker oil will firm up the front.
hagon replacement shock will sort out the rear.
https://www.hagon-shocks.co.uk

the brakes are usually ok if you get them stripped and cleaned (mine were binding). I fitted braided hoses and sintered pads as well and they were ace after that.

If you want twin discs, see if you can find the front end of an EX500 E9 or E10 (2002 or 2003 models)
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 19 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

A twin disc front would be great and I was aware of it, but never had anything come up when I have looked. What parts would I need to change mine? Wheel, callipers and ... ? Thinking about it, I guess I would need the forks too.. damn.

Kickstart, interesting you should say it's not good for restriction. I didn't really know! But the only bike I've compared my GPZ to was a CBR400 which it was better than by quite a stretch engine wise, just lacking in most other areas! What would you say would make a good bike for restriction? It wouldn't take much to tempt me to upgrade when it comes to insurance renewal.

tomsmith, you clearly know a lot about these bikes Razz . Very good info so have some Karma . Not sure if a Hagon shock would be throwing too much money at it though, it only cost me £1500 in the first place! But sintered pads would be easy enough, any suggestions on which?
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 19 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

St0rmer66 wrote:
Wheel, callipers and ... ? Thinking about it, I guess I would need the forks too.. damn.


Probably wheel, forlks, brake lines, disks and master cylinder.

All the best

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PostPosted: 22:31 - 19 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try HH sintered pads in it.

Another vote for progressive fork springs and replacing the fork oil (which I bet hasn't been done for a long time because it is a fiddle) to improve the front end handling.
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PostPosted: 01:09 - 20 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I went with EBC HH sintered ones.

A cheap way to firm up the front is to cut a little off the springs and fit plastic spacers. Never tried it myself, but lots of info here:

https://www.ex-500.com/index.php/topic,134.0.html
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