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| ericzx7 |
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 ericzx7 Derestricted Danger
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 Posted: 20:15 - 06 Dec 2007 Post subject: Finding pull-offs ay your local shops |
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Well, I figured out the key. I have called many shops in the area asking about availability of pull-off tires. Several shops gave me a flat "NO", or told me it was illegal for them to give them away. The funny thing is, I just went by those same shops today, as i was in town on other business, and got permission to go through their stacks of pull-offs any time I want. This leads me to believe that it is always better to do the asking "in person". I came home with 2 rear tires, and a front, all with decent tread on them. I heard of other people having trouble getting their hands on pull-offs, and would deffinitly recomend going to the shops in person. Well, that's my 2 cents worth. Good luck. Hope this helps.
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erm , what are pull off tyres? , used tyres ? , slicks? , tyres that they already have in stock? . ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Am guessing tyre's that people have replaced. Maybe finding yourself ones with some life left.
I think shops view such enquirers as 'pikies'.
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My guess would be that they are tires that are used, that were removed when someone had new tyres fitted.
I imagine most peolpe change tyres when the tread is low, or the tyre is squared off; but its still a perfectly legal tyre to use. ____________________
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Would you HONESTLY trust your life/bike on 'Not quite there' tyres? Seems not worth the hastle for the sake of a bit of cash..? or am I old fashioned!  |
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depends , my Honda manual says 1.5 or was it 2mm , I leave them on till I get to 1mm ,
though somebody got a nice set of BT14s last time I went touring had 1500-2500 miles left on them , not enough for touring though. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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 G The Voice of Reason
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| Richard_Schmid wrote: | Would you HONESTLY trust your life/bike on 'Not quite there' tyres? Seems not worth the hastle for the sake of a bit of cash..? or am I old fashioned!  |
Would you trust your bike with substandard brakes?
Or what about substandard suspension that could mean you're more likely to crash? And of course the majority of road safety comes from the rider, so if you've got less than 15 accident free years of riding, £3k suspension set up by a moto-gp technician, brakes from a 'wet' moto-gp bike with ABS added and just-worn in tyres with less than 200 miles on them, you're definitely still 'not quite there' and could be safer.
Ok, that's a bit silly, but no, not old fashioned, just not thinking about the options .
For me, I often buy part-worn or get cast-off tyres. This means for the same budget I can have grippier rubber.
I can't believe people trust not-so-good new tyres when for the same money they could have better part worn ones. Never mind that of course for the first chunk of riding, for some people up to 100 miles, you're tyres performing a lot worse. |
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Just to clear something up for you. Pull offs = part worns as G said.
It happens a lot with big lease companies and with car tyres too. For example the Golf 4 motion. It is highly recommended, to avoid damage to the suspension and drive system, that if any tyre should reach it's limit or become damaged for any reason then quite simply change the lot.
Bikes is more a case of a chap or lady going into a shop. Lets say for example they have just booked their bike in for a mot. The mot tester says the back tyre is shot but the front happens to be like new. Sometimes the customer can get a decent priced deal for a pair of tyres rather than just one or they may decide while they are changing one that they will go for a different brand or tread pattern.
I have even pulled into a garage before and took a perfectly good set of avons off and had a new set of bt's put back on because that is my preference.
The good front tyre removed which has nothing wrong with it then becomes a pull off. ____________________ Check out our tackle shop on Facebook:
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 ericzx7 Derestricted Danger
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Well, ya know, if you are on a budget, need tires, and don't want to quit riding till you can afford new ones, pull offs are free, and seem to be the way to go. I have seen many a bike owner change the tires only half way (or sometimes less) trough their lifespan. Why let a good tire go to waste? It is a bit easier for me, now that I have a manual tire changer in the garage. Also you should know that the harbor frieght tire changer only costs around $100.00, motorcycle wheel adapter and all. It works great, and saves me a BUNCH of money. Makes useing pull offs a lot more cost effective, not having to have a shop install the tire!
Everyone has their own opinion, but I for one have no problem saving a bit of dough by running pull offs. ____________________ my ride..1995 ZX7
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A few of my mates at uni who either do a lot of track days during the summer or have mates that do and go to the track are adamant that the amount of money they saved in buying racer's part worn tyres is definitely worth it. So when was the last time you saw a Mito 125 running supercorsas??? At 60 quid for the whole lot, it seemed like a good choice, especially when he bought in bulk - it helps to be mates with the local spanner who would do the tyre swaps for free.
Even when it applies to road tyres, theres a substantial saving to be made on part worns - could be talking anything up to 60%! To be honest, as long as my suspension was up for it, then i won't hesitate with part worns. It turns out another contributing factor to my crash was my head bearings! I've never seen a sorrier state of bearing casings!
So my rule is now - worry about your chassis first before you worry about your tyres- i found that new bearings made the tyres more planted and confident. ____________________ The Tot 2019 Z1000SX - 2007 R1
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I get them where I can if they are in good condition visibly. I have a supercorsa on my bike for drag-racing on concrete, why would I want to pay £150 for a tyre that I'll tear-up in a single day when I can get a part worn one for free? I have a Michelin Macadam on another wheel for dynoing. The dyno drum tears tyres to bits at my power level and soft tyres can be destroyed in a few runs. Apart from that, fitting a harder tyre gives a higher dyno reading
What I do, is go into a dealers and buy an oil-filter (something else I use by the bucketload).
BTW - find a shop that services Ducatis a lot - two people (bike fitters) have told me now that many Ducati riders change their tyres when they are part-worn as they don't feel comfortable on the bike anymore. Never having owned a Ducati I wouldn't know myself.... ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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I had the new Pirelli MT90s taken off my last bike during the "summer" and had BT045s fitted, so I guess knocking around the mechanic's workshop are my part worn tyres, either that or some pikey's had 'em...  ____________________ My claim to fame: Austin Vince nicked my pen... |
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