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PostPosted: 20:15 - 06 Dec 2007    Post subject: Finding pull-offs ay your local shops Reply with quote

Well, I figured out the key. I have called many shops in the area asking about availability of pull-off tires. Several shops gave me a flat "NO", or told me it was illegal for them to give them away. The funny thing is, I just went by those same shops today, as i was in town on other business, and got permission to go through their stacks of pull-offs any time I want. This leads me to believe that it is always better to do the asking "in person". I came home with 2 rear tires, and a front, all with decent tread on them. I heard of other people having trouble getting their hands on pull-offs, and would deffinitly recomend going to the shops in person. Well, that's my 2 cents worth. Good luck. Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 06 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

erm , what are pull off tyres? , used tyres ? , slicks? , tyres that they already have in stock? .
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 06 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
erm , what are pull off tyres? , used tyres ? , slicks? , tyres that they already have in stock? .


Glad you asked, I am confused as well Confused
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 06 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am guessing tyre's that people have replaced. Maybe finding yourself ones with some life left.

I think shops view such enquirers as 'pikies'.

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PostPosted: 20:46 - 06 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guess would be that they are tires that are used, that were removed when someone had new tyres fitted.

I imagine most peolpe change tyres when the tread is low, or the tyre is squared off; but its still a perfectly legal tyre to use.
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 06 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you HONESTLY trust your life/bike on 'Not quite there' tyres? Seems not worth the hastle for the sake of a bit of cash..? or am I old fashioned! Confused
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 06 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends , my Honda manual says 1.5 or was it 2mm , I leave them on till I get to 1mm ,

though somebody got a nice set of BT14s last time I went touring had 1500-2500 miles left on them , not enough for touring though.
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 06 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard_Schmid wrote:
Would you HONESTLY trust your life/bike on 'Not quite there' tyres? Seems not worth the hastle for the sake of a bit of cash..? or am I old fashioned! Confused

Would you trust your bike with substandard brakes?
Or what about substandard suspension that could mean you're more likely to crash? And of course the majority of road safety comes from the rider, so if you've got less than 15 accident free years of riding, £3k suspension set up by a moto-gp technician, brakes from a 'wet' moto-gp bike with ABS added and just-worn in tyres with less than 200 miles on them, you're definitely still 'not quite there' and could be safer.

Ok, that's a bit silly, but no, not old fashioned, just not thinking about the options Smile.

For me, I often buy part-worn or get cast-off tyres. This means for the same budget I can have grippier rubber.
I can't believe people trust not-so-good new tyres when for the same money they could have better part worn ones. Never mind that of course for the first chunk of riding, for some people up to 100 miles, you're tyres performing a lot worse.
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 06 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most bikes on the road are probably running on secondhand tyres that the owner knows very little about... the ones the bike came with when it was bought secondhand.
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 06 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres a lot about tyres that people don't know, for instance Metzeler also make Pirelli tyres.

Its what feels right that counts and I've yet to find a cheap way of finding out.
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 06 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to clear something up for you. Pull offs = part worns as G said.

It happens a lot with big lease companies and with car tyres too. For example the Golf 4 motion. It is highly recommended, to avoid damage to the suspension and drive system, that if any tyre should reach it's limit or become damaged for any reason then quite simply change the lot.

Bikes is more a case of a chap or lady going into a shop. Lets say for example they have just booked their bike in for a mot. The mot tester says the back tyre is shot but the front happens to be like new. Sometimes the customer can get a decent priced deal for a pair of tyres rather than just one or they may decide while they are changing one that they will go for a different brand or tread pattern.
I have even pulled into a garage before and took a perfectly good set of avons off and had a new set of bt's put back on because that is my preference.

The good front tyre removed which has nothing wrong with it then becomes a pull off.
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 07 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

1samarg wrote:

It happens a lot with big lease companies and with car tyres too. For example the Golf 4 motion. It is highly recommended, to avoid damage to the suspension and drive system, that if any tyre should reach it's limit or become damaged for any reason then quite simply change the lot.

Put as nicely as possible, that's just bollocks. No automotive manufacturer recommends changing all tyres just 'cos one is dodgy. Only people that would are national, kwik fit, et al.
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 07 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Put as nicely as possible, that's just bollocks. No automotive manufacturer recommends changing all tyres just 'cos one is dodgy. Only people that would are national, kwik fit, et al.


Yes you are correct. That quote came from a manager at Kwik Fit.
If it is wrong I stand corrected but the reasoning of what and why pull offs occur in the rest of my post still stands.
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 07 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your right, its because the untrained public expect the likes of kwik fit to give an honest answer.
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PostPosted: 00:56 - 07 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I thought you were supposed to replace across an axle, especially at the front i.e. if you had to replace the O/S front you'd replace the N/S front as well even though it may be only 1/2 worn? What I was told is good practice anyway (and not by Kwik Fit either).
Replacing all 4 'cos one is dodgy is frankly ballcocks though.
For what it's worth, I run the Land Rover on secondhand tyres 'cos frankly £130/ tyre is a bit steep. Got 5 for £200 slightly worn. Also gonna hit the scrapyard to get a pair of wheels/ tyres for my polo I'm trying to sell. Far cheaper...
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 07 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking about it, I guess it makes some sense. I had a set of Dunlop qualifiers on the ZZR and have just changed the set for BT021's as the rear was getting squared off. mind you, the front probably had plenty of miles left on it. I guess someone could've found a use for it....

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PostPosted: 19:51 - 07 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

1samarg wrote:
I have even pulled into a garage before and took a perfectly good set of avons off and had a new set of bt's put back on because that is my preference.


I did the exact same thing when i bought my bandit, the dealer wouldn't budge on changing the tyres so i rode round the corner and had them changed (to BT010s)
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 07 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ichy wrote:
1samarg wrote:

It happens a lot with big lease companies and with car tyres too. For example the Golf 4 motion. It is highly recommended, to avoid damage to the suspension and drive system, that if any tyre should reach it's limit or become damaged for any reason then quite simply change the lot.

Put as nicely as possible, that's just bollocks. No automotive manufacturer recommends changing all tyres just 'cos one is dodgy. Only people that would are national, kwik fit, et al.

vauxhall did .on the tinpot 4wd cavs and calibra's
thier 4wd system was so crap it got hot and failed if the wheels were more than a few mill out.
but the main arguments against part worn tyres .
you cant tell by looking at them if they have a duck egg in the sidewall.
might have odd wear and cause handling issues.
that said i have had part worn tyres on cars and so far have had only one fail at speed(about 120 mph) and it was easy to control because i was on track.
wouldnt touch part worn for the bike.
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 21 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, ya know, if you are on a budget, need tires, and don't want to quit riding till you can afford new ones, pull offs are free, and seem to be the way to go. I have seen many a bike owner change the tires only half way (or sometimes less) trough their lifespan. Why let a good tire go to waste? It is a bit easier for me, now that I have a manual tire changer in the garage. Also you should know that the harbor frieght tire changer only costs around $100.00, motorcycle wheel adapter and all. It works great, and saves me a BUNCH of money. Makes useing pull offs a lot more cost effective, not having to have a shop install the tire!
Everyone has their own opinion, but I for one have no problem saving a bit of dough by running pull offs.
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 22 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few of my mates at uni who either do a lot of track days during the summer or have mates that do and go to the track are adamant that the amount of money they saved in buying racer's part worn tyres is definitely worth it. So when was the last time you saw a Mito 125 running supercorsas??? Shocked At 60 quid for the whole lot, it seemed like a good choice, especially when he bought in bulk - it helps to be mates with the local spanner who would do the tyre swaps for free.

Even when it applies to road tyres, theres a substantial saving to be made on part worns - could be talking anything up to 60%! To be honest, as long as my suspension was up for it, then i won't hesitate with part worns. It turns out another contributing factor to my crash was my head bearings! I've never seen a sorrier state of bearing casings!

So my rule is now - worry about your chassis first before you worry about your tyres- i found that new bearings made the tyres more planted and confident.
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 22 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get them where I can if they are in good condition visibly. I have a supercorsa on my bike for drag-racing on concrete, why would I want to pay £150 for a tyre that I'll tear-up in a single day when I can get a part worn one for free? I have a Michelin Macadam on another wheel for dynoing. The dyno drum tears tyres to bits at my power level and soft tyres can be destroyed in a few runs. Apart from that, fitting a harder tyre gives a higher dyno reading Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

What I do, is go into a dealers and buy an oil-filter (something else I use by the bucketload).

BTW - find a shop that services Ducatis a lot - two people (bike fitters) have told me now that many Ducati riders change their tyres when they are part-worn as they don't feel comfortable on the bike anymore. Never having owned a Ducati I wouldn't know myself....
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 22 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the new Pirelli MT90s taken off my last bike during the "summer" and had BT045s fitted, so I guess knocking around the mechanic's workshop are my part worn tyres, either that or some pikey's had 'em... Wink
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